Turbocharger & Supercharger Info/Questions
#476
Originally Posted by RX8-TX
Just to hit a few examples: did they manage to remove the fuel cutoff when hitting 9,800 rpms?
And of course...the "Anemic Renesis motor" comment is...well, still hurting (although it holds truth.)
And of course...the "Anemic Renesis motor" comment is...well, still hurting (although it holds truth.)
The engine is absolutely not anemic by non turbo rotary standards. Don't bring race engines into this. It is nearly as powerful as the last 13B twin turbo that ran 9 psi of boost and more powerful than the previous 2nd generation turbo engines. Even the low power 4 port engine by 13B nonturbo standards is a step up in the power department. It also does this with 1/10th the emissions of the older engines. Why does everyone expect V8 performance from a rotary without turbos? You can't get it. I really hate seeing people dog the Renesis calling it weak. That is false.
#478
Originally Posted by rotarygod
The engine is absolutely not anemic by non turbo rotary standards. Don't bring race engines into this. It is nearly as powerful as the last 13B twin turbo that ran 9 psi of boost and more powerful than the previous 2nd generation turbo engines. Even the low power 4 port engine by 13B nonturbo standards is a step up in the power department. It also does this with 1/10th the emissions of the older engines. Why does everyone expect V8 performance from a rotary without turbos? You can't get it. I really hate seeing people dog the Renesis calling it weak. That is false.
I don't understand some of this bashing either, especially in light of the points made above. I don't see this type of bashing re the motor in the S2000, despite the fact that there are similarities in the motors regarding the need to keep the rpms high before having access to the majority of the power the engine is capable of providing.
#479
Originally Posted by RX8-TX
Shall we go knock down SpeedForceRacing marketing department's door then? :D
Sure let's do it! I guarantee they can't show me a low emissions non turbo non Renesis rotary engine with this much power. If they say they can, they aren't reputable, not that they are very well known anyways. I also said keep race engines out of this. I am fully aware that peripheral port engines can top 300+ hp. Try driving one on the street.
When you say anemic, what is your frame of reference? It definitely isn't any past nonturbo street legal rotary. You also can't compare it to a turbo rotary although there was only 1 two rotor factory engine that made more power and that was 13B-REW. The 13BT didn't make this much power stock. Higher boost doesn't count.
There is zero logic or credibility in calling it anemic by nonturbo rotary standards.
Last edited by rotarygod; 08-23-2004 at 07:51 PM.
#480
Just talked with Tim from SFR and Cam from Pettit heres the low down again.again and again.
Tim says, All dyno's are finished and he going to post the dyno's with-in the week, as soon as their WEB GUY can put it together. I said do you promise, he said promise. I'll keep my fingers crossed.. Tim also said the HP figures still well over 300rwhp, he would'nt tell me exactly, wants to keep it a surprise...
It also seems like this Greddy E-Manage will help the vendors tweak more..
Cam from Pettit said about another month, I know I told everyone this before, but don't shoot the messenger. It seems Pettit wants make this as perfect as they can, probably in lite of the article from Motortrend..
One thing I did find interesting was on the SC they were running 9psi boost and at about 6200rpm's when the auxilary's kick in the boost drops to about 7psi and stays there till redline. I asked if anything can be done about this Cam said NO. Cam said it's not like a Turbo that you can control through wastegates.. I know we have some fantastic minds out there guys,
Is'nt there a way to control this to have boost all the way to redline on a SC..
I love the sound of a SC, maybe that's just me but I prefer to have boost to redline, I thought that was half the fun with the Rotaries was the high RPM range. So I'am not to sure about a SC if the boost drops off after 6200rpm. Well that's my update I hope it's all true from the vendors as they told me. Oh before I forget , Thanks Rotarygod I'am still trying to give the RX8 the benefit of the doubt.. Thanks for your help.
Tim says, All dyno's are finished and he going to post the dyno's with-in the week, as soon as their WEB GUY can put it together. I said do you promise, he said promise. I'll keep my fingers crossed.. Tim also said the HP figures still well over 300rwhp, he would'nt tell me exactly, wants to keep it a surprise...
It also seems like this Greddy E-Manage will help the vendors tweak more..
Cam from Pettit said about another month, I know I told everyone this before, but don't shoot the messenger. It seems Pettit wants make this as perfect as they can, probably in lite of the article from Motortrend..
One thing I did find interesting was on the SC they were running 9psi boost and at about 6200rpm's when the auxilary's kick in the boost drops to about 7psi and stays there till redline. I asked if anything can be done about this Cam said NO. Cam said it's not like a Turbo that you can control through wastegates.. I know we have some fantastic minds out there guys,
Is'nt there a way to control this to have boost all the way to redline on a SC..
I love the sound of a SC, maybe that's just me but I prefer to have boost to redline, I thought that was half the fun with the Rotaries was the high RPM range. So I'am not to sure about a SC if the boost drops off after 6200rpm. Well that's my update I hope it's all true from the vendors as they told me. Oh before I forget , Thanks Rotarygod I'am still trying to give the RX8 the benefit of the doubt.. Thanks for your help.
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