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Old 11-25-2008, 02:18 AM
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Question What parts are in the MM/BHR Greddy Upgrade Turbo kit?

I would love to know if there are specific parts, I will be making these modifications to my RX-8 when I put in my new Racing Beat Lightweight Rotors and I'd like to kick in the pants that feel of powerlessness I feel jumping from the Foxbody to the RX-8.

It'd be greatly appreciated.
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But isn't there a Greddy turbo that does the job, I do not like Garrett, they blow up in the Mustang 3 out of 3 installed, not pleased with them...
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greddy doesn't have a turbo. They use a mitsu unit. It's only a step up from turbocharging your car using elephant dung.
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Originally Posted by ravenforbidden
But isn't there a Greddy turbo that does the job, I do not like Garrett, they blow up in the Mustang 3 out of 3 installed, not pleased with them...
Lol.
Maybe turbocharging just isn't your "thing".
If you believe a particular turbo can blow up your car, then you might be better off staying away from them (since they can't).
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Lol.
Maybe turbocharging just isn't your "thing".
If you believe a particular turbo can blow up your car, then you might be better off staying away from them (since they can't).
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But isn't there a Greddy turbo that does the job, I do not like Garrett, they blow up in the Mustang 3 out of 3 installed, not pleased with them...
I think he was saying that the Turbo itself blows up.
That would be interesting to see.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Lol.
Maybe turbocharging just isn't your "thing".
If you believe a particular turbo can blow up your car, then you might be better off staying away from them (since they can't).

Have you ever thought that you condescending comments are totally unnecessary?

How about you answer the question.

Not everyone is as knowledgeable as others on the board.

If you were sticking with the "Greddy provided Turbo" the upgrade you are most likely thinking of is the Upgrade to the Housing to flow more air. Still the same turbo.
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No, I just hate Garrett, I have destroyed three of their units under that same warranty with my Foxbody, each one walks out of it's bearings during High Output Runs with 100 Oct and booster with NOS, 300 shot as it is, and gunning down 1200hp with an 88 I would think it hold up, but no it never has, and my choice is the lacking Greddy and Turbonetics turbo's. Garrett works for others, but my Foxbody doesn't like em, and I don't think for my goals it'd be hard to get a Greddy turbo upgrade that fits my needs, and looks somewhat like it's supposed to be a bolt on kit, my Foxbody has been using an Anti Surge Y2k Turbonetics 76mm BB and has not blown despite being 300hp off target power on NOS it still pulls the same load and get's it down without "*Screach boom* There goes my new cowl hood, MF'ER G-DAMNIT!" I like Greddy turbo's because they're underrated, no one I'm racing is going to look twice at it, which is what I want no suspicious engine peakers!
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Originally Posted by Fluid Motorsports
Have you ever thought that you condescending comments are totally unnecessary?
Nope. Totally necessary.
Anyone that starts a series of loaded questions with an assumption like a particular turbo blows up your motor requires an equally gratuitous reply.
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wow,

and light weight rotors are so needed in a fi application!!! money well spent..

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Originally Posted by swoope
wow,

and light weight rotors are so needed in a fi application!!! money well spent..

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My fox blew it's first motor a 302 non stroke just dropped compression build, and it was just a fluke I figured. Secound time it happened the Turbo killed itself before the motor.

ON the third shot I tould the now very friendly Garrett turbo supplier that he'd kiss my *** before I bought or installed another of his shitty turbo's.

Went to Hellion Power Systems, requested the Y2K and 76mm BB stage three kit, has been screaming ever since, though I'm thinking of upgrading to a 429 cube after the RX-8 thumps up a decent number and go with the new big turbo kit Hellion Offers.
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wow this thread turned a little too ford (mustang that is) 4 me
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Originally Posted by 04RX8man
wow this thread turned a little too ford (mustang that is) 4 me
If you wanna say that, you should realize Ford owns 20% of Mazda and the RX-8 shares alot of the Style the new Mustang has, look at both from the side you'll see the chassis resemblence pretty easy. Ford and Mazda have been sharing designs for years.
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Originally Posted by ravenforbidden
If you wanna say that, you should realize Ford owns 20% of Mazda and the RX-8 shares alot of the Style the new Mustang has, look at both from the side you'll see the chassis resemblence pretty easy. Ford and Mazda have been sharing designs for years.
uhh...

Nov 18, 2008 ... Ford Motor Company said Tuesday it was selling more than half of its stake in Japan's Mazda Motor Corp. in a bid to raise much-needed cash.

13% now.
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wow, it really is.

(and it was 33% before btw, not 20%)
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pix of "blown up" turbo plz
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No, I just hate Garrett, I have destroyed three of their units under that same warranty with my Foxbody, each one walks out of it's bearings during High Output Runs with 100 Oct and booster with NOS, 300 shot as it is, and gunning down 1200hp with an 88 I would think it hold up, but no it never has, and my choice is the lacking Greddy and Turbonetics turbo's. Garrett works for others, but my Foxbody doesn't like em, and I don't think for my goals it'd be hard to get a Greddy turbo upgrade that fits my needs, and looks somewhat like it's supposed to be a bolt on kit, my Foxbody has been using an Anti Surge Y2k Turbonetics 76mm BB and has not blown despite being 300hp off target power on NOS it still pulls the same load and get's it down without "*Screach boom* There goes my new cowl hood, MF'ER G-DAMNIT!" I like Greddy turbo's because they're underrated, no one I'm racing is going to look twice at it, which is what I want no suspicious engine peakers!
You gave no description of what turbo you had and how you were cooling and lubricating the bearings. How do we know you maintained your turbo the way it was supposed to be maintained? Did you have a 360 degree thrust bearing? Garrett turbos are pretty much the best in the world and are used in a ton of OEM high boost applications, especially the large frame turbos which are used on large diesel engines pushing 30+ psi.

And greddy turbos being underrated? Ever heard of the T88/34D ? Greddy/Mitsu makes a bunch of large turbos. You need to read up on them more.

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Compaired to some of the turbo's on the market they're underrated.

I don't have pics because it was annoying enough to deal with! The Hellion Heat system is far more effective.
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"I like Greddy turbo's because they're underrated........"

Now right there, that's funny - I don't care who you are!

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Originally Posted by ravenforbidden
If you wanna say that, you should realize Ford owns 20% of Mazda and the RX-8 shares alot of the Style the new Mustang has, look at both from the side you'll see the chassis resemblence pretty easy. Ford and Mazda have been sharing designs for years.
A rotory and a ford small block are 2 completly different animals, you can not just apply what you know about ford small blocks to your rx8. You need to listen to what people are telling you otherwise you are going to blow your rotory. Pick a goal for your car, do your research, come back with your opinion and get the opinion of others that have a lot more rotory experiance and then start your build.

You said you are putting in lightweight rotors? I have not heard of anyone else using them and if they do I doughtdont think they use them in F/I applications. See thread https://www.rx8club.com/mazmart-88/remanufactured-rotary-engines-104255/ for some info about remanufactored engines and contact mazmart for any additional info.
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Originally Posted by Highway8
A rotory and a ford small block are 2 completly different animals, you can not just apply what you know about ford small blocks to your rx8. You need to listen to what people are telling you otherwise you are going to blow your rotory. Pick a goal for your car, do your research, come back with your opinion and get the opinion of others that have a lot more rotory experiance and then start your build.

You said you are putting in lightweight rotors? I have not heard of anyone else using them and if they do I doughtdont think they use them in F/I applications. See thread https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=104255 for some info about remanufactored engines and contact mazmart for any additional info.
Racing Beat uses them that's enough for me, I've seen several Racing Beat RX-7's race my Fox and contend, if the brand holds any quality it's a given buy.

I had pics of the Turbo as it has blown up, needed them for warranty, however I deleted them in a rage after the last email I got from that provider tould me I was doing something wrong after I had specificly tuned the car both myself and then by a shop who double checked it, and both times nothing was wrong, and I've built three FD's before. If anything the Accel benefit of lighter powertrain parts are essential. My Fox would never make it beyound the 9's without lightweight pistons, it'd be struggling to lumber the heavy slugs to rpm!

I have just proved I can use my exp from SBF to Rotary, wow not hard... Obviously I'm not going to "trade parts" that'd just be a dumbass thing to do.
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You're putting down 1200hp in the mustang?

Almost anything is going to feel down on power compared to that.

When you are setting up the RX8 just keep in mind that there currently is nothing on the market to lower the compression. You will have to work within the limits of the OE parts. And that the compression is now a full point higher than it was in the FD, so you can't run as much boost on pump gas.

Good luck.


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