The Int-X doesn't use it, but the PCM does.
You need the MAF to calculate load, which is still used by the OMP, the TCM and a bunch of other important stuff.
The Int-X is not a stand-alone, it is a fuel and spark computer. The PCM is still running all the other stuff.
It would be catastrophic to turn off the OMP, don't you think?

 

yeah, that all makes sense. Didn't think of that at the time. Ray had a hunch that the trans wasn't getting it's load calcs which is why is was "sluggish"

 

Dude that sucks about the lack of "tip-o-tronic".
I would really question why the MAF would have to be removed for any type of piggy-back install.
Also did you have an codes stored when you couldn't shift manually?

 

I'm sure he is hip-deep in codes. He is using the Int-X, so most of the codes don't matter.
The main reason for removing the MAF is, I would think, because the new charge pipe for the SC doesn't have a mounting bung for it.
I could be wrong...

 

Wonder if Moon has manual shift problems?

If he has, then SC is not my thing. I will go for turbo!!

 

I was thinking if there were any DTC's for not being able to shift with the paddles.

 

I don't know that there are any AT specific DTCs.
Hmm....

 

There are . I have been reading on the auto trans and and error codes.

 

Where can I find them in the manual? Are they in the auto tranny section or the engine/PCM section?
Are they readable over the OBD-II port, or is there an additional port on the TCM?

 

09 factor, I recall you told me you are pushing 5PSI!

Can you do manual shift?

I guess you boost was crazy in "D" mode rather than in manual mode.

Let us know!! I am coming for turbo soon!!!!!

 

Look in the Tranny chapter. The codes are readable from the CAN port. and The Basic inspection starts on page 48

--- EDIT Automatic Trinsmission DTC Errors are on page 126. ---
I was thinking of maybe problems 31-32. Both lead to Replacing the TCM. IF the physical connections are good. --- end of EDIT---



It's closer to 7 psi now. I have no problems using the paddles to shift. I have never driven in just "D" mode. I'll try that tomorrow.


I would think that Moon still has the ability to shift manually. It would be silly to have a product that took this ability away.

 

Got it.
Remember, you are not Int-X, so these issues wont apply.

 

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Duh, I forgot that one. Well the TSing sort-a-kinda still holds true.

 

Phil had two error codes on his ScanGauge, but I can't remember the code now

The Pettit pipe does not have a place to install the MAF.

 

Like MM said I have the EMU bit I would still think the MAF needs to be there for the ecu..


MM
Software has been install.

 

^ I agree. I think Petitt may have said in the "instructions" not to install the MAF with the Int-X. You'll have to ask Ray as he did that part so I'm not sure. I do know for sure that the induction kit doesn't not have a place to install the MAF anyways......

But I've also seen a bunch of people with the Int-X running w/o a MAF installed. So i dunno.

The MAF was still wired up and tucked under the hood- it wasn't like it was physically disconnected. Just no air flow accross it.

 

The AT looks like it needs the MAF because the PCM sends an engine torque packet to the TCM and part of that computation is derived from the MAF.
Has Petit installed one of these on an auto before?

All your base are belong to us.

 

To my knowledge, there are only two 4 port a/t equipped 8s with the s/c. Mine and Moons. Pettit admits that he forgot to tell us that the MAF should be hook up and said that on Moons he mounted it by the break master cylinder. Since the manual portion of the tranny is trying to work and only works when moving, I think that Dave is correct and it need to be mounted in the air stream as it was stock. Ray and I had talked about it earlier but were trying to follow Cam's lead. I will look at it again in the morning and see how easy the wires can be extended or if there is another spot to get it in the air flow. If you guys think I should hold off be sure and post so I don't screw something up. I'll check the thread before I do anything.

Moon's car has use of the paddles.

No you guys removed and disconnected the MAF and taped up the plug.

The scan gauge shows a cell about the DSC malfunction and the other is the one that is always there and part of the x.

 

Of course just randomly plopping it in the airstream anywhere might make things erratic or worse off overall, if the airflow around it is not 'predictably' stable... as some people found out when swapping the stock air intakes with 'non-tuned' aftermarket ones.

-C

 

Well, the MAF isn't being used for anything fuel-related on an Int-X car, so it probably won't matter too much.
However, I'd put it in a place that is relatively accurate.
Unfortunately, the kit doesn't come with a mounting point, so this might turn into a big project.

 

There are still a couple of pesky little items and some dress-up that need taking care of but this install is complete. I have been driving the car quite a bit so as to find any problems. I had an SRT want to play on the 215 - no more SRT. There should have been an FI option when the 8 came out as it make it a whole different experience. I'm hoping to meet-up with O9 Factor sometime to see what the turbo is like for the a/t. I will be posting more on the s/c over the next few weeks as the "pesky" little problems get worked out.

 

I hate to say it, but you didn't race and beat an SRT.
You might have out-swerved him on the highway, but he has you by over 100 horses.
I'll give you a call tomorrow when I get into town!

 

Going to SSX ?

 

Photo's damn you.. Photo's NOWZ!!!! lol

Great to see some actual I dunno Knowledge sharing going on. I've been busy last few days so I missed the whole tranny problem so I got worried as I read through the post's, and was smiling as I seen it solved.

Oh and while this is somewhat active thread. I had my Mazda Service Rep tell me it would be a "waste" to buy redline atf for my baby. Said it would take waaaaay to long to warm up. Mind you I do live in MA and our winters do get cold but I was kinda hoping to have this fluid put in my baby after hearing great stories about it. Anyways I wanna see some photo's and hear some possible numbers beyond that of dyno

 

To keep it in prospective, yes you are correct I did not beat him in the straight run but did manage to keep up. This highway has a twisty section and he backed off prior to entering that area. By that time I was overheating and as soon as he disappeared in my mirror I exited the highway. It just sounded better my way.