09 trans in earier model question?
#3
Zoom-Freakin'-Zoom
iTrader: (5)
wow,
i guess i am the only one that reads this stuff and retains stuff..
from what i gather.
the 09 is a direct bolt on.. the ppf is on the other side.
to mean that is the 09 tranny fits just fine with the pre 09 ppf and exhaust..
so the 09 ppf and exhaust are different..
so the question is does the tranny solve the problem, or is the ppf on the other side we cant use, solve the problem?
just thinking out loud!![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
bet it is a bit of both.
beers
i guess i am the only one that reads this stuff and retains stuff..
from what i gather.
the 09 is a direct bolt on.. the ppf is on the other side.
to mean that is the 09 tranny fits just fine with the pre 09 ppf and exhaust..
so the 09 ppf and exhaust are different..
so the question is does the tranny solve the problem, or is the ppf on the other side we cant use, solve the problem?
just thinking out loud!
![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
bet it is a bit of both.
beers
![Beer](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/beer.gif)
#6
Super Moderator
Don't forget there is also a 3 mm spacer between bell and rear housing to cover up some 6-10mm gaps..if your want to put an 09 (man) on a Series I.
#8
Super Moderator
OK Power Plant Frame...
There is no change from the 08 (Last Series I RX-8 Manual Trans) to the latest Manual 09 RX-8.
The 09 Auto (6 speed) has a different PPF Part Number Listing to the Manual.
The Series I for Australia uses the same PPF for Manual and Auto Trans (we only had the 4 speed Auto).
This would also apply to the US 4 speed Auto and Manual using the same PPF.
Series II we now have the 6 speed Auto with it's own PPF like the US.
Hope that makes sense.
There is no change from the 08 (Last Series I RX-8 Manual Trans) to the latest Manual 09 RX-8.
The 09 Auto (6 speed) has a different PPF Part Number Listing to the Manual.
The Series I for Australia uses the same PPF for Manual and Auto Trans (we only had the 4 speed Auto).
This would also apply to the US 4 speed Auto and Manual using the same PPF.
Series II we now have the 6 speed Auto with it's own PPF like the US.
Hope that makes sense.
Last edited by ASH8; 02-26-2009 at 03:22 AM.
#9
Super Moderator
PPF on Series II
The PPF on the Series II still bolts onto the trans and diff housings on the Left Hand side of the Car...the same as Series I.
It is the exact same PPF.
It is the exact same PPF.
![](https://www.rx8club.com/attachments/series-i-tech-garage-22/134257d1235640701-09-trans-earier-model-question-frame%5B1%5D.jpg)
Last edited by ASH8; 02-26-2009 at 03:34 AM.
#11
Super Moderator
2003 Series I PPF
Here is the 2003 Series I PPF, still mounts on the left side as 09..
Check out the Part Numbers for the last 08 and 09, they are the same.
Check out the Part Numbers for the last 08 and 09, they are the same.
![](https://www.rx8club.com/attachments/series-i-tech-garage-22/134258d1235641513-09-trans-earier-model-question-frame-03.jpg)
#12
Super Moderator
The left side of the diagram is always pointing to the Front of the Car, so you are viewing the Spark plug, starter side of the US Drivers side or Australian Passenger side of car.
#13
Zoom-Freakin'-Zoom
iTrader: (5)
ah,
seems like it was mentioned. but i thought it happended...
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...mission&page=4
lots of good info.. but i do know the exhaust changed.. which led me to think the ppf changed..
so i cant wait to get under one.. !
beers
seems like it was mentioned. but i thought it happended...
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...mission&page=4
lots of good info.. but i do know the exhaust changed.. which led me to think the ppf changed..
so i cant wait to get under one.. !
beers
![Beer](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/beer.gif)
#14
Super Moderator
It can be a little strange when looking at the part diagrams which are always extremely accurate...
Scott, I just went out and checked my car (09 man) with a torch and it looks like the Parts Manual.
The part numbers are the same for S1 and S2 manuals from about 2007 ~ and I think the original (03) superceeds to the new one..F151-39-710K ( F goes to a G at a chassis # change, the J (2007)goes to a K as used in S1 (2007) and S2 Manual Trans.
Scott, I just went out and checked my car (09 man) with a torch and it looks like the Parts Manual.
The part numbers are the same for S1 and S2 manuals from about 2007 ~ and I think the original (03) superceeds to the new one..F151-39-710K ( F goes to a G at a chassis # change, the J (2007)goes to a K as used in S1 (2007) and S2 Manual Trans.
Last edited by ASH8; 02-26-2009 at 04:41 AM.
#16
Super Moderator
The exhaust system...
Yes there have been changes, they both still have a 3 piece system (Genuine)..
The Cat and pipe has changed, but IMO only because there are changes to the O2 sensor...perhaps a more reliable, slightly larger and better quality O2 Sensor.
The Cat back pipe has changed part numbers , But again the style and look/design is the same.
Gaskets or O rings are the same, they also have the same 6 rubber exhaust system hangers for both series.
The rear Silencer/muffler has changed also, and don't forget Mazda made the Outlet (Chrome ones) larger in diameter (Fake appearance only).
That change alone also constitutes a change in part number over the old, and it still could probably fit the Series I ...
Yes there have been changes, they both still have a 3 piece system (Genuine)..
The Cat and pipe has changed, but IMO only because there are changes to the O2 sensor...perhaps a more reliable, slightly larger and better quality O2 Sensor.
The Cat back pipe has changed part numbers , But again the style and look/design is the same.
Gaskets or O rings are the same, they also have the same 6 rubber exhaust system hangers for both series.
The rear Silencer/muffler has changed also, and don't forget Mazda made the Outlet (Chrome ones) larger in diameter (Fake appearance only).
That change alone also constitutes a change in part number over the old, and it still could probably fit the Series I ...
Last edited by ASH8; 02-26-2009 at 04:34 AM.
#17
Super Moderator
Found something new on the 09 ppf
There is a plate on the Diff on S2, Highlighted in Red, that is not shown on the S1 Diagram.
Scott can you check if your 8 has this small plate.
Scott can you check if your 8 has this small plate.
![](https://www.rx8club.com/attachments/series-i-tech-garage-22/134276d1235681301-09-trans-earier-model-question-plate%5B1%5D.jpg)
#19
Super Moderator
No problem OD, Happy to help anyone with a parts inquirey...
I was thinking of starting an RX-8 Parts Help THREAD (or any Mazda), or for RX-8 owners, with diagrams, do you think it would work and be a good idea?..
They ask, I supply the info, to their question...type of thing.
I think I have covered ALL the mechanical changes to the Series II in my thread, apart from the obvious BODY or Cosmetic changes...
Ash
I was thinking of starting an RX-8 Parts Help THREAD (or any Mazda), or for RX-8 owners, with diagrams, do you think it would work and be a good idea?..
They ask, I supply the info, to their question...type of thing.
I think I have covered ALL the mechanical changes to the Series II in my thread, apart from the obvious BODY or Cosmetic changes...
Ash
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