AC condenser is NOT COVER under warranty !!
#51
Originally Posted by Nubo
I believe they probably meant "**** poor design".
rock......................hole............condense r.................sad
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vs.
rock...................grille..hole............con denser.............happy
--*------------------->#O-------------------//---------------
rock......................hole............condense r.................sad
--*------------------->O-------------------//---------------
vs.
rock...................grille..hole............con denser.............happy
--*------------------->#O-------------------//---------------
You got it exactly. I guesse the 3-hours at the dealership for them to find a hole left me brain-dead. The 30 mins on the phone with the so not helpfull Mazda USA reps and 15 mins with my insurance company did not help the situation either.
In any case it's '****-poor'!! :D
-Tim
#54
but Mazda could of looked at the problem the way racing beat looked at it. Racing beat put the a/c screen inches infront the a/c condensor. MAzda could have done something like this. And it does not look like the screen can be seen from the front, which is what most people would like. And if you chose to remove the a/c screen it is your fault you pay for the repairs.
#55
Originally Posted by Ryan13b
**** poor...
Name a car that doesn't expose the condenser?
Can you name one that's tilted forward more than ours? This reduces the likelyhood of damage.
The only thing Mazda could have done was to put a grille in front of it. Lots of cars don't have them because they don't look good, and are out of automotive style at the moment.
Name a car that doesn't expose the condenser?
Can you name one that's tilted forward more than ours? This reduces the likelyhood of damage.
The only thing Mazda could have done was to put a grille in front of it. Lots of cars don't have them because they don't look good, and are out of automotive style at the moment.
Maybe when you run into the $750+ repair bill and your analysis moves from hypothetical to personal you might change your tune. If not, more power to you.
-Tim
#56
I suspect that the location of the condensor is not the real issue.
As many have already noted - A/C condendors sit at the very front of every car. I have driven on some horrible roads in Australia and rocks have hit the A/C condensor on other cars.. (Among other things) In every other car they just seem to flatten the fins and bounce off..
In this car it seems too easy to hole the condensor.. That leads me to suggest that the condensor is made of a material that is perhaps too lightweight... Perhaps they are not soldered properly and a small stone can easily crack the solder..
I may be wrong, but have any of you noticed this issue on other car forums or in other cars that you have owned?? First car I have ever owned where the number one accessory is a grille kit for the A/C and oil cooler.
As many have already noted - A/C condendors sit at the very front of every car. I have driven on some horrible roads in Australia and rocks have hit the A/C condensor on other cars.. (Among other things) In every other car they just seem to flatten the fins and bounce off..
In this car it seems too easy to hole the condensor.. That leads me to suggest that the condensor is made of a material that is perhaps too lightweight... Perhaps they are not soldered properly and a small stone can easily crack the solder..
I may be wrong, but have any of you noticed this issue on other car forums or in other cars that you have owned?? First car I have ever owned where the number one accessory is a grille kit for the A/C and oil cooler.
#57
Originally Posted by Ryan13b
Maybe I should call Dodge than, on my truck the Condenser is litterally 36 by 12 inches and it sits right in front.
The only thing protecting it are a few grill pieces. Over 70% of it is exposed.
Look, it's bad luck, sorry. You have insurance for these kind of things.
My car got a scrape and huge dent the first week I owned it. I didn't call Mazda because they didn't make the car dent resistant, or ask them why their defective paint scraped off after being hit.
The only thing protecting it are a few grill pieces. Over 70% of it is exposed.
Look, it's bad luck, sorry. You have insurance for these kind of things.
My car got a scrape and huge dent the first week I owned it. I didn't call Mazda because they didn't make the car dent resistant, or ask them why their defective paint scraped off after being hit.
You are free to call Dodge and complain, that's your right as a consumer, frankly it doesn't affect me as it's not an Rx-8. I do find it a tad strange that you know the dimensions of the condensors on all your cars tho. :D
Comparing a rock that destroys a $750 total cost of replacement during normal and acceptable operations of a car versus you driving (or driven into) another object.....yea that's peas to watermelon comparison there. In any case I'm not going to change your mind (nor did I ever intend to) and you're not going to change mine.
-Tim
#58
Originally Posted by Ryan13b
Maybe I should call Dodge than, on my truck the Condenser is litterally 36 by 12 inches and it sits right in front.
The only thing protecting it are a few grill pieces. Over 70% of it is exposed.
The only thing protecting it are a few grill pieces. Over 70% of it is exposed.
#60
well am still runing with no AC and am geting FRIDE !! ahhhh why lil things can do so much DAMEG !! any how still trying to finde a FIX for it woulde any one think Welding Might help or Not at all ?? am just thinking of ways to fix it cheep and not because am cheep either.
#62
Why do you keep complaining RX8 XTC? Just use your insurance.
Or better yet, if your wise; Take the front bumper off your self. Remove the cooler and take it to the radiator repair shop.
Or decrease your deductable wait 45 days until 7/31/05, then make a claim.
Or better yet, if your wise; Take the front bumper off your self. Remove the cooler and take it to the radiator repair shop.
Or decrease your deductable wait 45 days until 7/31/05, then make a claim.
#63
RX8 XTC, have you tried to go to another dealership. I have a hard time believing all the dealerships in the area are ******. Also how much is the $600 dollars worth to you, are you willing to drive a couple of hours to save that $600. Ask around the forum and see which dealerships are cool and call them and try to arrange for your car to be worked on at the dealership. Just an Idea.
#64
And hence the humble beginings of Hymee Enhanced Design nearly 2 years ago. :D
Racing beat really put the pressure on me (price wise) with their "solution". I take satisfaction that mine was the first one, the original, and the others are essentially a copy. Mine are powdercoated as well, so no need to paint them black. The black paint gets sandblasted fairly quickly anyway. Powder coating is a little more robust.
Do you reckon I will sell more if I drop my price much?
I never asked about the deductable when it happened to me. I just assumed it was the normal excess. Oh well.
Cheers,
Hymee.
Racing beat really put the pressure on me (price wise) with their "solution". I take satisfaction that mine was the first one, the original, and the others are essentially a copy. Mine are powdercoated as well, so no need to paint them black. The black paint gets sandblasted fairly quickly anyway. Powder coating is a little more robust.
Do you reckon I will sell more if I drop my price much?
I never asked about the deductable when it happened to me. I just assumed it was the normal excess. Oh well.
Cheers,
Hymee.
#65
Originally Posted by 8 is enough
RX8 XTC, have you tried to go to another dealership. I have a hard time believing all the dealerships in the area are ******. Also how much is the $600 dollars worth to you, are you willing to drive a couple of hours to save that $600. Ask around the forum and see which dealerships are cool and call them and try to arrange for your car to be worked on at the dealership. Just an Idea.
being a pr-ck has nothing to do with it, well up until the quoted post was made :p
It's called life, murphy's law, bad luck, jinxed, etc. It's not fair to call any dealer a pr-ck just because they won't do it for free. It's not in the dealerships best interest to have the manufacturer go bankrupt. In case you haven't noticed Mazda like most auto manufacturers is not in the best shape right now. If the District Rep, etc. looks at the part and determines that it was not a manufacturing defect they'll make the dealership eat it.
#66
Damn Mazda, this big stick got flipped up off the road and hit my front bumper, tore the hell out of it! You should have made the car avoid these road hazards!!!! You think I sound like a dumbass making this complaint? lol, just making a sarcastic point
#67
My AC's been out for a week. Was told by Mazda that I have a hole in my condenser and am being charged $675 for the part, another $50 for labor for a total of $725. Imagine how pissed off I was to find out it wasn't covered. Funny to find a thread regarding my issue and the amount of people with the same issue. Seems Mazda could save people a lot of money by addressing this. I will definitely look into the screens for protection. By the way, I did find AC condensers for the RX8 on the web for under $200. Are they talking about used ones? I did a search for "Mazda RX8 AC condenser"
#68
What does a rock, stick or any other object flying up and scraping your paint or damaging your bumper have to do with a A/C condensor that should have been protected better? No way should we have to pay this much for a car and buy aftermarket parts to protect mechanical features. Exterior of the car is not a valid comparison. Very poor design for the oil coolers and a/c condensor and I don't understand how anyone can agree that its the same as the exterior of the car getting damaged via an accident.
#70
let me tell you something guys, its not about the money its not about stuff like that its about Mazda can invest in Something that will Protect things like that for $10 and it will save them from a lot of problems.
I mean our cars are low to the ground and things will fly in their easy it just makes me mad that they did not think about this we don’t have nice roads to drive on all this chip stones comes off the streets because they are not build as good as other places have done every 5 or ten Years they will have to Fix the roads and free ways but any ways i am not CRYING about this just think about it a lot of cars have something that Protect Ac Condensers.
I mean our cars are low to the ground and things will fly in their easy it just makes me mad that they did not think about this we don’t have nice roads to drive on all this chip stones comes off the streets because they are not build as good as other places have done every 5 or ten Years they will have to Fix the roads and free ways but any ways i am not CRYING about this just think about it a lot of cars have something that Protect Ac Condensers.
#71
Originally Posted by Razz1
Why do you keep complaining RX8 XTC? Just use your insurance.
Or better yet, if your wise; Take the front bumper off your self. Remove the cooler and take it to the radiator repair shop.
Or decrease your deductable wait 45 days until 7/31/05, then make a claim.
Or better yet, if your wise; Take the front bumper off your self. Remove the cooler and take it to the radiator repair shop.
Or decrease your deductable wait 45 days until 7/31/05, then make a claim.
#73
abbid LOL i wish i was 17 and i wish i could ask my DADY ANA MOMY to Give me the money to fix it :p but am 9 years older than 17 and am not bragging because i got the car Cash with my Own money and have the slip to it and its under my name.
you guys should not judge ppl like this , and the reason i have not fixed it yet because am maybe im gona weld it my self or just get a new one or used but i don't really care for it right now am just having fun driving the car and enjoying it :D
you guys should not judge ppl like this , and the reason i have not fixed it yet because am maybe im gona weld it my self or just get a new one or used but i don't really care for it right now am just having fun driving the car and enjoying it :D
#75
Originally Posted by slaxer07
thats fine let mazda know you want to order a rx8 with the condensor in the trunk so its protected and see how cool your a/c gets.