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Old 11-06-2010, 09:27 AM
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NJ Blown Engine

Well, let's just say, I'm fucked.

My RX has 95,000 and a blown engine. The coolant tank has a crack in it and apparently has been leaking. The engine has been spewing oil and I also never noticed. I guess that could be my fault for not noticing, but in my defense of all that, the RX8 notoriously burns oil, the oil gauge isn't exactly the most accurate thing in the world, so when the oil light came on I just thought, "well, time for another quart of oil." There had never been any discoloration or fluids under my car so it never occurred to me that there were leaks.

Ironically enough I've been doing my own oil changes. As well as my own brakes. Not to mention when my clutch pedal snapped in traffic I did that myself. Moral of the story, in order for my blown motor to be covered under warranty I need proof of oil changes. Since I've been doing them myself, I never bothered to save receipts for oil and filters I've purchased. Basically ... I'm fucked unless I come up with some receipts. Worst yet, I still owe like 5Gs on a car that is effectively dead.

What a nightmare.

Anyone in North Jersey with a garage who wants to make me up some receipts would be much appreciated ...
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Sorry dude!

When you say your engine is fucked... Low compression? or what?
Spewing oil from where? The cooler hoses are notorious

I hope it works out for you.

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This might be a good time to start that repository of Photoshop-able oil change receipt scans.

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Don't take that line of bullshit from the d/stealer.

Check the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act, and look at this too. You don't have to prove you changed the oil regularly, they have to prove that you didn't and that the oil caused the blown engine.

Politely make it very clear to the service manager that you are willing and able to file a breach of warranty suit since a lawyer for such a simple warranty case is cheaper than an engine and the dealer will have to pay for both when they lose. That should shut him up. If it doesn't call Mazda directly and bitch, and you State's Attorney, and the BBB, and a lawyer.

BTW, the '8 doesn't "notoriously" burn oil. It "intentionally" burns oil. Nothing "notorious" about it.
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Originally Posted by Tyler2191

Anyone in North Jersey with a garage who wants to make me up some receipts would be much appreciated ...
Good luck to you, but for god's sake, dont post that **** on the forums! You think a company that's going to be handing out $7,000 engines doesn't do ANY internet browsing??
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Originally Posted by wankelbolt
Check the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act, and look at this too. You don't have to prove you changed the oil regularly, they have to prove that you didn't and that the oil caused the blown engine.

Politely make it very clear to the service manager...
Also to the regional rep and Mazda. Since dealerships do not tear the engines down, the service manager has nothing on which to base his/her decision.

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Originally Posted by Tyler2191
Well, let's just say, I'm fucked.



Anyone in North Jersey with a garage who wants to make me up some receipts would be much appreciated ...
yes you are because Mazda reads the forums regularly and has more than likely already noted the guy in jersey with the blown engine and possibly faked receipts.

but if you paid for the oil and filters with a credit card you can use the billing statements as proof. not that big a deal if you paid that way.

same with the clutch pedal btw. you can get reimbursed partial or in full for the pdeal fix. see the clutch pedal replacement letters.


and sorry boys but he does have to have a record of regular maintenance to keep his warranty alive. its in the regular warranty and in the extension for the block. requiring regular maintenance does not come in conflict with the Magnusson -Moss act. Requiring you to get your regular maintenance done ONLY by a Mazda dealer would.
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It may be an hour or two from you depending on where you live but take it to Maple Shade Mazda in Turnersville. They replaced my engine this past Summer and I wasn't asked to produce any receipts for maintenance including oil changes. The service mangers name is Pat.
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^......Terch1..............you should delete that post and send him the info in a PM....then I'll delete this one.
Did you not see what Zoom just wrote?
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Let Mazda read whatever the hell the want because I just got lucky as ****. I have a host of records for maintenance for things like check engine light, O2 Sensor, Window drop, hard starts. It turns out every time I brought my car in for service or tire changes I had the oil changed. As a result I do have records for oil changes.

Thanks for the help though, but it looks like daddy is getting a new motor the legit way.
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and sorry boys but he does have to have a record of regular maintenance to keep his warranty alive. its in the regular warranty and in the extension for the block. requiring regular maintenance does not come in conflict with the Magnusson -Moss act. Requiring you to get your regular maintenance done ONLY by a Mazda dealer would.
If you do your own service they cannot demand receipts that do not exist. That demand does conflict with Magnusson-Moss. The most they can demand if you do your own work is an affidavit consisting of your own record of when you performed what service. Magnusson-Moss puts the burden of proving a warranted failure was caused by the consumer on the warrantor.
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you have to have records- even if its just a log in the back of the manual or a computer spread sheet etc etc. you have to show a record. receipts from purchasing oil and filters is a good record. but not the only record allowed.
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Just curious about these receipts, what are individuals suppose to do when they buy the car used and the previous owner does not have records?

will keeping current records suffice, or do they need proof for all XXX,XXX miles?
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Originally Posted by wankelbolt
If you do your own service they cannot demand receipts that do not exist. That demand does conflict with Magnusson-Moss. The most they can demand if you do your own work is an affidavit consisting of your own record of when you performed what service. Magnusson-Moss puts the burden of proving a warranted failure was caused by the consumer on the warrantor.
the Mag-moss act does not apply here because they're not denying warranty cuz you used aftermarket parts, they're denying it because you cannot show proof that you maintain ur car properly.

Reason is there are people, true story, who does not change their oil and one day when the engine seize, they blame the manufacture saying they suck and wants to fix it under warranty.
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Glad to hear it!
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Originally Posted by FazdaRX_8
Just curious about these receipts, what are individuals suppose to do when they buy the car used and the previous owner does not have records?

will keeping current records suffice, or do they need proof for all XXX,XXX miles?
There was a recent post from someone who asked Mazda that very question. They posted Mazda's reply, which was essentially that you just needed records from the time you bought the car.

Following Zoom's comment about the form of the record not mattering, as long as there was something credible... the owner's area at mazdausa.com has a place where you can enter service info. My dealer (and I presume most others) enters the work they do, and I add the stuff I do myself.

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I add everything to the online record, Wayne Mazda adds them to the list too.

of course I have the receipts in my basement too

double insurance.
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^...........yepper!

Well, not in the basement or it would be under water here.
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