Combo Switch Wiring Harness "Pins"
#1
Combo Switch Wiring Harness "Pins"
So I purchased the rear fog light kit from Canzoomer... it of course is for RHD, and my car is LHD. No big deal, the only thing that needs to be modified is the Combo Switch wiring harness connector.. well, I found a problem.
The Right Turn signal part of the connector on RHD is a "large" pin, while on a LHD is a small pin. So i can't just swap the location in the connector like I could with the rest of the pins.
What I need help finding is a place to purchase the smaller pins (male and female)... or perhaps a place to buy another wiring harness with both sets of pins in it (for cheap).
(I could always bypass the connector.. but I'd like to do it "the right way" if I can.)
See the attached picture for an example of both the large and small version of the pins (male and female). (The Black/Red is the line I need to modify the end on.. the green already has the small connector.)
The female pin measures approx 2mm x 2mm on the face, and about 6 mm in length. The male pin is approx 1 mm wide x .5 mm thick.
Any help would be appreciated!
The Right Turn signal part of the connector on RHD is a "large" pin, while on a LHD is a small pin. So i can't just swap the location in the connector like I could with the rest of the pins.
What I need help finding is a place to purchase the smaller pins (male and female)... or perhaps a place to buy another wiring harness with both sets of pins in it (for cheap).
(I could always bypass the connector.. but I'd like to do it "the right way" if I can.)
See the attached picture for an example of both the large and small version of the pins (male and female). (The Black/Red is the line I need to modify the end on.. the green already has the small connector.)
The female pin measures approx 2mm x 2mm on the face, and about 6 mm in length. The male pin is approx 1 mm wide x .5 mm thick.
Any help would be appreciated!
#2
Messy......
You would probably mess it up, taking the pins off, then recrimping - even best case, they would be shorter than the others.
I would find the male pin that fits, find the right color wire, then make a solder joint way up inside that black tubing. Would look perfect. (...but still a little "ghetto", right Efini?)
S
I would find the male pin that fits, find the right color wire, then make a solder joint way up inside that black tubing. Would look perfect. (...but still a little "ghetto", right Efini?)
S
#3
That would work, _IF_ I can find the right wires/ends to do it with.
The problem I have right now is the green wire in the picture is needed, and has to be small ends. (Thats the TNS wire.) The Black/Red turn signal wire also needs to be small... so I get to find the pin/socket.. but I'm not sure where to look.
I was hoping somewhere here might have some connector/electronics parts knowledge and point me somewhere. I've done some basic looking on digi-key, but thats a heck of a lot of parts to wade through, trying to find _ONE_ pin, of the right size..
(My alternative if I absolutly can't find the pin, is to pull the pin from the existing harness connector and push it into the rear-fog-light harness connector.. But I suspect the existing pin won't be long enough, so I'd have to cut and solder the wire.. thats something I'd like to avoid, especially on the car harness!)
--Mark
The problem I have right now is the green wire in the picture is needed, and has to be small ends. (Thats the TNS wire.) The Black/Red turn signal wire also needs to be small... so I get to find the pin/socket.. but I'm not sure where to look.
I was hoping somewhere here might have some connector/electronics parts knowledge and point me somewhere. I've done some basic looking on digi-key, but thats a heck of a lot of parts to wade through, trying to find _ONE_ pin, of the right size..
(My alternative if I absolutly can't find the pin, is to pull the pin from the existing harness connector and push it into the rear-fog-light harness connector.. But I suspect the existing pin won't be long enough, so I'd have to cut and solder the wire.. thats something I'd like to avoid, especially on the car harness!)
--Mark
#5
Thanks, thats just what I needed to know!
I'll head over there tommarow morning and ask them if they can help me. (They've been great to me so far.. a few free plastic door clips when I dismantled the doors to install puddle lights)
--Mark
I'll head over there tommarow morning and ask them if they can help me. (They've been great to me so far.. a few free plastic door clips when I dismantled the doors to install puddle lights)
--Mark
#6
I installed the rear fog kit from Canzoomer. I found it a much simpler install to splice in the connections. By the time you remove the RHD connectors and all the pass through wiring on the harness there are only a few wires to connect. Don't forget an indicator.
#7
TheDosDog, ya I know.. it's just that one wire. (in the Combo Switch harness) everything else looks to be the same between the RHD and LHD cars.. (And luckily all of the wire colors are the same!)
As for an indicator, I'm still trying to figure out the best way to handle that. I am suspecting that I will put the indicator into a switch blank to the right of the fog light switch.. and just put a small red led (low brightness version)... I was going to quickly inspect the gauge cluster to see if there was some way to add it there.. but I doubt thats possible.
(BTW I am planning on doing a full DIY on this. So I've got lots of pictures.. and fairly translated copy of the install manual... and I have the "conversion chart" written for the connection harness. Once you figure out how to pop out the pins it's pretty simple to re-wire it.... except that one darn pin!)
Thanks again for the help,
Mark
As for an indicator, I'm still trying to figure out the best way to handle that. I am suspecting that I will put the indicator into a switch blank to the right of the fog light switch.. and just put a small red led (low brightness version)... I was going to quickly inspect the gauge cluster to see if there was some way to add it there.. but I doubt thats possible.
(BTW I am planning on doing a full DIY on this. So I've got lots of pictures.. and fairly translated copy of the install manual... and I have the "conversion chart" written for the connection harness. Once you figure out how to pop out the pins it's pretty simple to re-wire it.... except that one darn pin!)
Thanks again for the help,
Mark
#8
Figure I would add this quickly in case anyone is searching for it.
The chart I have (I havn't disassembled the car yet to verify everything), shows the following changes should be made to the combo connector...
(Pin order, male pins looking into the connector, not the wire side)
Q O M X I G E C A
R P N L J H F D B
(Pins A B C D M O P Q R are large pins)
(Pins E F G H I J L N are small pins)
(X is a blank)
RHD -> LHD
A - Q -- Flash to Pass (Yellow/Red)
B - P -- GND (Black)
C - O -- High Beams (Brown)
H - F -- (not present) [R. Fog Light]
L - J -- Headlight (Yellow/Red)
M - A -- Left Turn Signal (Green/Yellow)
N - L -- TNS (Light Green)
O - C -- Ignition (Black/Yellow)
P - D -- F. Fog Light (Light Green/Black)
Q - E -- Right Turn Signal (Black/Red)
(That information is from the electrical wiring manual based on position and color codes..)
All of the lines except for TNS and Headlight in the RHD connector are "large pins". In the LHD connector, the right turn signal also needs to be a "small pin".
To repeat, the problem with the re-wiring is only the Right Turn Signal switches from large to small pin design...
The chart I have (I havn't disassembled the car yet to verify everything), shows the following changes should be made to the combo connector...
(Pin order, male pins looking into the connector, not the wire side)
Q O M X I G E C A
R P N L J H F D B
(Pins A B C D M O P Q R are large pins)
(Pins E F G H I J L N are small pins)
(X is a blank)
RHD -> LHD
A - Q -- Flash to Pass (Yellow/Red)
B - P -- GND (Black)
C - O -- High Beams (Brown)
H - F -- (not present) [R. Fog Light]
L - J -- Headlight (Yellow/Red)
M - A -- Left Turn Signal (Green/Yellow)
N - L -- TNS (Light Green)
O - C -- Ignition (Black/Yellow)
P - D -- F. Fog Light (Light Green/Black)
Q - E -- Right Turn Signal (Black/Red)
(That information is from the electrical wiring manual based on position and color codes..)
All of the lines except for TNS and Headlight in the RHD connector are "large pins". In the LHD connector, the right turn signal also needs to be a "small pin".
To repeat, the problem with the re-wiring is only the Right Turn Signal switches from large to small pin design...
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