CassiesRX8

I know you guys get sick of these. I just need some additional help. This is what has been done so far.

ECP sensor pulled, Plugs pulled. Chambers purged of gas, spark plugs replaced new. Sensor replaced. Car will not start. It acts like it wants to, and I am charging the battery for a longer period now, but a jump wont start it.

Of course the guys at the Mazda dealer said I need to bring it in for a "Deflood" which cleans the injectors. Do I want to spend $700 (at least) doing this? Hell no. Any additional help and suggestions would be appreciated. Sorry for being another "your 8 is flooded" post. Thanks to stinksause for all of the help so far.

Cassie

ShinkaEvo

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How long did you try deflooding it? Just the cranking part. It's possible to take up to 30min to an hour before your engine decide to turn. It took mine more than that before it turns....

CassiesRX8

We"ve been cranking it for a little while. Gonna slack off for a bit and let the battery charge up, then we are going to go at it again. It doesn't seem to be getting enough juice. It seems to be working a little more each time. Hopefully we'll have my baby up and running in no time.

Grace_Excel

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That's true, it took me two hours the first time I flooded mine, piggy-backed with another car's battery. Pushing/pull start worked for me as well found from these links and I think it's the easiest way to start a flooded engine:
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...30&postcount=3
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...57&postcount=2
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...60&postcount=4

WingleBeast

takes a while for all the seals to get oil agian and get good compression. Took two days to do mine.

ShinkaEvo

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Holly macaroni! I thought mine took long enough.

dannobre

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Is it an Automatic traansmission ????

Ophitoxaemia

Pull starting as indicated has been the easiest way ever to get my flooded car started- I've tried all different ways including pulling the plugs. RX8 comes with tow eyelets in the trunk that screw into the grill. Pull to 15 mph and let clutch out in 2nd with ignition on- started right up.

Mazurfer

^....................works real well, but where did the OP say it was a manual?

Ophitoxaemia

True- if it's an auto, a method that worked for me was to pull the plugs, dry it out by cranking and put it back together.

A chance it's something else other than flooding? Out of gas?

CassiesRX8

Thanks to EVERYONE for the input. We finally got it running and she's coming to temp now. The continuous cranking and waiting is what did it. You all are the best. Couldn't have done it without you!

Cassie

JantzenRX-8

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Good job getting it fired up again. De-flooding can be a very frustrating task.

Assuming you've defouled the plugs (i used a blow torch) and pumped out all the gas/oil by removing all the sensors etc and cracking its all about the right technique with you gas pedal. Foot all the way down is fuel cut-off if i recall correctly and you have to be ever so careful to pull it off slow enough to get it to fire up.

It'll be a lot easier the second time around but hopefully it doesn't happen again.

Mazurfer

Yeah, an auto can be tricky at best. My experience in helping someone with an auto is you have to really take the time to get the plugs dry(new ones are better) and sit there and crank that engine over and over and over again to really get it dry in there before attempting it, or you will just be doing it again.

If this wasn't purely a case of turning off when cold, you better start thinking about coils and plugs(although you may have done the plugs....can't remember).

If it was a case of turning off cold................bet you don't do that again! Stick this on your dash when you leave it for any length of time where someone else might be moving it.

mrkeel5537

How long exactly can you crank the engine with the plugs out. I only let it turn over about 3 times before I would stop and tried that 5 times. Should I let it turn over more before I stop or should I just try it more times?

Grace_Excel

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Mazurfer, that's a neat print that should be on a sticker somewhere seen in the driver side of the car, like that of the airbag warning on the visor.

Try this link, mrkeel5537: DIY deflooding

Mazurfer

I have two saved for just these ocassions. Here's the other!

Mazurfer

I can only tell you what we did.

First off make sure you got a good battery and possibly a back-up one!

I sat in the wheel well while a fellow member cranked Rachel's car for about 7-8 seconds, then we let it rest for 15 seconds. During that 15 seconds, I wiped the excess fuel/oil off the plug holes. We continued this for a total of about 20 times until I say no more seepage or small puffs of smoke.
Re-installed the plugs(but we had them dried with compress air), then I stood at the front of the car with fuel relay in hand. He cranked the car.....and once it caught, I slapped in the relay. He did have to modulate the accelerator pedal to keep it running until it would idle on it's own.

That's all I can tell ya.

It does seem as it takes people different techniques on the auto's.
Manual, just tow start it!