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Old 11-20-2012, 10:02 PM
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Difference between Manual and Auto Front O2 Sensors?

Out of curiosity does anyone know the difference between the Front O2 Sensors for the Manual and Automatic RX-8's?

I was looking at Bosch O2 Sensors and they have the Manual Sensor which is Part #15042 which can be found for about $170 and the Automatic Part # 15043 which can be found for about $82.

What's the difference? Why is there such a price difference between the two?
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my god, this has been covered like, 50 million times. seriously wtf is wrong with people ? why can't people do their own freaking homework ?
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OK Show me where it has been covered cause when I search for the differences between the two sensors even using google instead of this sites crappy search function nothing comes up.

The first result when I search google is THIS thread.

I've read through many threads I can find about O2 sensors in general and no difference is stated other than the length of the wires, which is no big deal.
Even one where you recommend the Bosch 15043(Auto Sensor) to someone with a Manual.

Instead of acting like a typical forum jackass why don't you just explain, that is if you even know the technical differences of the two sensors?
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what the ... seriously ?

Let me google that for you

wow, I lost faith in humanity. seriously.

You wonder why no one replied to your stupid *** thread? cuz no one wants to answer stuff that has been covered like 50 million times. I'm already nice enough to give u a hint, but hey guess what, you still wanna act like a smartass so yeah go run ur 8 into a wall and f a goat already.

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Oh yeah 5 results for something that's been covered 50 million times lol, half of those results are not even remotely related.

Did you bother to even read any of the results from your google search?
I've read through ALL of those threads previously.

Not one of those results clarifies the technical difference between the two sensors for the Manual and Auto.

https://www.rx8club.com/trouble-shoo...-issue-237863/

https://www.rx8club.com/series-ii-te...sensor-232062/

https://www.rx8club.com/series-ii-te...sensor-234149/

https://www.rx8club.com/mazmart-88/c...-159715/page4/

https://www.rx8club.com/series-ii-di...enewal-223163/

None of these threads specify a difference between the Manual and Automatic Front O2 Sensors.

So how about you pull the stick out of your *** and quit being a tool.

Thanks for your respectful response and telling me to crash my 8 into a wall, you've only proved you're a piece of **** person and have no respect for others.


After more research through other manufacturers websites, it appears Bosch's part numbers are listed incorrectly on their site.

Also here's the thread where you recommend the Bosch 15043 Auto sensor to someone with a Manual, since it appears Bosch has the 15043 listed incorrectly and it's actually a Rear sensor, guess what? you were wrong.
https://www.rx8club.com/tech-garage-...d-help-159606/

There are two different Mazda Part #'s for the Front O2 Sensors.

My question is not if there is a difference, but what are the technical differences of the sensors? I know the front is a Wideband Sensor and the Rear is a Narrowband sensor.

But as far as the front's go, is the wiring pinout different? Is the sensor range different? Is something with the heater aspect of the sensor different?

Yea I totally sound like someone who hasn't done any research and wants to be spoon fed information.


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*sigh*

again, u wonder why no one replied to your bullshit? I'm nice enough to point ya to the direction.

Why would I need to respect someone who wants someone to spoon fed him in the first place?

ho ho ho, I did a search and I found what I need to know, it's ok to be dumb, but at least try to man up and admit it.
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why don't you be the leader for once to try it and let us know
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Originally Posted by nycgps
*sigh*

again, u wonder why no one replied to your bullshit? I'm nice enough to point ya to the direction.

Why would I need to respect someone who wants someone to spoon fed him in the first place?

ho ho ho, I did a search and I found what I need to know, it's ok to be dumb, but at least try to man up and admit it.
LOL

How is this thread bullshit?

It's a question that is answered NO where on this forum.

How did you point me in the right direction?
By telling me to search?
And then telling me to read all the threads that I've already read?
None of which contain the answer I'm looking for.

I don't want to be spoon fed information, I've done research about this and the answer is no where to be found.

Did I find out why there's a price difference between the two Bosch O2 Sensors?

YES

Do we know the technical differences between the Auto and Manual Front O2 Sensors?

NO

Which is more the point of this thread than anything else.

You obviously don't know the answer either so why don't you STFU and go post somewhere else.
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just restating the obvious

Originally Posted by TeamRX8
why don't you be the leader for once to try it and let us know
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Originally Posted by kma5783
Out of curiosity does anyone know the difference between the Front O2 Sensors for the Manual and Automatic RX-8's?

I was looking at Bosch O2 Sensors and they have the Manual Sensor which is Part #15042 which can be found for about $170 and the Automatic Part # 15043 which can be found for about $82.

What's the difference? Why is there such a price difference between the two?
If you go to the link to the Bosch site below, and click on "more info" for each number and then "specs", you will see that the manual trans version has about a 10 inch longer cable. They don't mention any other differences. Hope this helps.

Bosch Vehicle Part Finder
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Originally Posted by Art L
If you go to the link to the Bosch site below, and click on "more info" for each number and then "specs", you will see that the manual trans version has about a 10 inch longer cable. They don't mention any other differences. Hope this helps.

Bosch Vehicle Part Finder
The Bosch Part Numbers are wrong, they listed the same sensor for the front and rear on the Automatic.

Thanks though
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Originally Posted by kma5783
LOL

How is this thread bullshit?

It's a question that is answered NO where on this forum.

How did you point me in the right direction?
By telling me to search?
And then telling me to read all the threads that I've already read?
None of which contain the answer I'm looking for.

I don't want to be spoon fed information, I've done research about this and the answer is no where to be found.

Did I find out why there's a price difference between the two Bosch O2 Sensors?

YES

Do we know the technical differences between the Auto and Manual Front O2 Sensors?

NO

Which is more the point of this thread than anything else.

You obviously don't know the answer either so why don't you STFU and go post somewhere else.
*facepalm*
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Originally Posted by kma5783
The Bosch Part Numbers are wrong, they listed the same sensor for the front and rear on the Automatic.

Thanks though
So, does that mean that the difference between the M/T and A/T sensors is NOT the length of the cable???

All of the "search" and find the answer and all of the hostility concerning a simple question is mind boggling. Why can't someone with the correct answer just give it??

This is the only car forum that I regularly participate in which the answers to common questions that are asked over and over again, usually by newbies, aren't cheerfully answered. Or at least, link to the thread that has the answer.
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Originally Posted by Art L
So, does that mean that the difference between the M/T and A/T sensors is NOT the length of the cable???

All of the "search" and find the answer and all of the hostility concerning a simple question is mind boggling. Why can't someone with the correct answer just give it??

This is the only car forum that I regularly participate in which the answers to common questions that are asked over and over again, usually by newbies, aren't cheerfully answered. Or at least, link to the thread that has the answer.

It could be as simple as they don't know.
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Originally Posted by Art L
So, does that mean that the difference between the M/T and A/T sensors is NOT the length of the cable???

All of the "search" and find the answer and all of the hostility concerning a simple question is mind boggling. Why can't someone with the correct answer just give it??

This is the only car forum that I regularly participate in which the answers to common questions that are asked over and over again, usually by newbies, aren't cheerfully answered. Or at least, link to the thread that has the answer.
I will investigate this when I get a chance.

Paul.
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Originally Posted by Art L
So, does that mean that the difference between the M/T and A/T sensors is NOT the length of the cable???

All of the "search" and find the answer and all of the hostility concerning a simple question is mind boggling. Why can't someone with the correct answer just give it??

This is the only car forum that I regularly participate in which the answers to common questions that are asked over and over again, usually by newbies, aren't cheerfully answered. Or at least, link to the thread that has the answer.
that's because you haven't been to "enough" forums.

this is already a nice one, some will just give you a 1 day ban straight

how about this? since you are so nice, please answer every single god damn newbie question as soon as you see them. Can you?

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Originally Posted by nycgps
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how about this? since you are so nice, please answer every single god damn newbie question as soon as you see them. Can you?
If I knew the answer to every newbie question as soon as I saw them, I would answer them, or at least, link to the answer if I knew it. Let's face it, no one knows everything. I certainly don't, as I've only had this car for a couple of months. It's just that I don't find that saying "it's been covered 50 million times...SEARCH" a very good answer. Would it have been so difficult to link to one of those 50 million threads??

Don't bother answering, I pretty much know how this will turn out.
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Originally Posted by Art L
If I knew the answer to every newbie question as soon as I saw them, I would answer them, or at least, link to the answer if I knew it.
b4 u can do that, how about STFU then ?

Let's face it, no one knows everything. I certainly don't, as I've only had this car for a couple of months.
ho ho ho, then why are you here again ?

It's just that I don't find that saying "it's been covered 50 million times...SEARCH" a very good answer. Would it have been so difficult to link to one of those 50 million threads??$
hey Mr. Hero, since you are so "Cool" ? why don't you go ahead and do the "SEARCH" for every single newbie question and help post it all here?

oh wait u didn't, cuz u are just full of it?

Don't bother answering, I pretty much know how this will turn out.
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Originally Posted by Art L
So, does that mean that the difference between the M/T and A/T sensors is NOT the length of the cable???

All of the "search" and find the answer and all of the hostility concerning a simple question is mind boggling. Why can't someone with the correct answer just give it??

This is the only car forum that I regularly participate in which the answers to common questions that are asked over and over again, usually by newbies, aren't cheerfully answered. Or at least, link to the thread that has the answer.
The Bosch Part #'s are wrong.

I also found the Bosch printed catalog at work, which contains the same part numbers and offers no additional information/specs regarding each individual sensor.

Originally Posted by kevinande
It could be as simple as they don't know.
YUP

Originally Posted by Mazmart
I will investigate this when I get a chance.

Paul.
Thanks Paul, Mazda appears to be the only one who has two different part numbers.

NGK and Denso both recommend the same Part #'s for the AT and MT.

It's more just curiosity than anything else, I don't really NEED to know.
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Mazda trix has the same pics for manual and auto. i'd imagine the harness length would be the difference, but only nycgps knows and he's not saying
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Grrr ... this topic has been discussed lota times

I had both sensors b4 just for comparison (of course I returned it afterwards, lol)
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