Huey52

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But 'acid rain' does indeed have a lot to do with man-made (as well as volcano) air pollution.

It was just an aside. No one would put rain water in their radiators these days.... would they?

mysql

hell yeah they would. You save $1.40 by using rain water instead of distilled.

Mr.&Mrs.Magic

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so all this brings me to a question(debate) about distilled vs tap. Anyone have a theory on mixing distilled and tap say 3/1. If pure water is too pure and distilled is close to the line why not mix?

Nubo

Oh GAWD you people are overanalyzing this to absurdity. There's no such thing as "too pure" because you're not putting it into a pristine system. Nobody is suggesting 100% H2O as coolant, much less flushing the system 10 times with ultrapure water. You need additives. Both to protect the water pump, as well as to prevent galvanic corrosion between the Iron and Aluminum sections of the engine. By the time these additives are added, any concerns over "overly pure" water are meaningless. The only issue is, do you want to control the content of the additives, or are you happy to add the random mineral salts present in tap water, which are counter-productive?

TeamRX8

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agreed and sorry, my post probably didn't help the cause

distilled water is minus the hardness compounds which is the main reason it's recommended - to avoid hardness deposit buildup

TrochoidMagic

so i have learned briefly and seen only one application where someone used it.

sorry to thread-jack, but has anyone ever used/heard of this product?
its a waterless conversion... it is a rather light (and i mean very light) lubricant. and there can be NO water in the system if using this. the concept in this iirc is simply a very light oil as the medium to remove heat.

old school hot rodders use this, or are most likely to use this...
has anyone heard of this or even tried it?
i don't remember the benefits other than that it doesn't contaminate/age, and eventually become electrically charged and drains battery power like water in time when enough metal particals are traded due to circulation... and etc.

-although useful in a piston application to keep the heads cool, i wonder if anyone has heard and made an attempt in this product. something i wanna look into.

thanks,
trochoid

TrochoidMagic

to OP:

if ur worried about ANY corrosion from any water/coolant blends and getting a voltage draw from using water blends, you should try using this "moonshine" (not sure thats what its called, but its a waterless coolant. more like a straight lubricant.

it can in fact be what we use in our coolant blends, but it would be from a maker that sells the stuff thats either 100% propylene glycol or perhaps ethylene glycol???

so, like DOT 3/4 brake fluids, which may as well contain PG or EG, it will have a high(er) boiliing point, but its efficiency will be lowered with water... kinda like a wet boiling point.

if i can find more info on this stuff, i'll post who makes it and where you can get it.

like i said, i've always wanted to look into it. and want something that won't age and is more superior... but if i can recacll, this stuff AIN"T CHEAP.

Georgia8er

I wouldn't doubt the stupidity of anyone.

Eight

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Is it just me or am I the only one that thinks that the canned coke tastes better than the bottle or plastic 2liters

I'm planning on using distilled water and water wetter only, since its getting very hot down here.

I remember a while back some guy with a bimmer said he only filled the radiator with evian wonder how that cars running now...

Old Rotor

I asked this earlier but no answer yet...anybody know? How much will the distiled water and water-wetter help? 10-20 degrees? more??

mysql

it's not that easy.

your radiator temps will be about the same for most situations. The thing is, without antifreeze, the liquid in the radiator is more efficient at removing heat.

because the radiator fans turn on at 190F and go into higher mode at higher temps, but turn off when it goes below... your radiator temps should remain within a specific range regardless of liquid used unless you're in extreme conditions.

if you look at the redline website for water wetter, the way they went about "measuring" gain was to put a car on the dyno and run it at 7,000 rpm for 20 minutes (I'm making up numbers here to describe the test). Then repeated the same test using water wetter, making sure the ambient temp was the same. Then they compared the sustained temp between the two to show how much better one was over the other.

basically, this mix will help lower the chance of heat soak, and also allow your radiator to remove heat more quickly, even if the temps are approx the same during DD.

Razz1

Hell.. I've been using moonshine in mine for for years!

No problem! ahh............

CarAndDriver

My coolant needed filling so I put some distilled water in it and put water wetter in it for the first time.

The instructions say 1 ounces (3-4 capfuls) per quart. 3-4? is that more like 3 or more like 4? I ended up putting in 38 capfuls since the 8 coolant capacity is 8.7L or around 9.19 quarts.

Old Rotor

So did you notice anything?

CarAndDriver

I ended up dumping the whole bottle in and following the procedure in another thread about idling car for 15 minutes then 2 minutes of revving at 2500rpm. Can't say I noticed anything cuz I didn't drive the car today. Will this weekend though.

nycgps

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I got my distilled water @ pathmark for 99 cents ...

nycgps

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As long as your car's cooling system is working well and you dont push it much. WW wont do you much.

All it does is it will lower your temp by a few degrees when your radiator is *under stress*

if you run straight distilled + WW, the effects will be greater.

EG always suck at carrying heat, its there just to prevent rust and lube parts.

nycgps

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As long as your car's cooling system is working well and you dont push it much. WW wont do you much.

All it does is it will lower your temp by a few degrees when your car is *under stress*. hell you might actually see *higher temp* than before, cuz the WW allows the water to carry more *heat* away.

if you run straight distilled + WW, the effects will be greater.

EG always suck at carrying heat, its there just to prevent rust, corrosion, and lube seals.

mysql

you can't directly notice anything because the radiator fans keep the coolant temp between a specific range. So unless it's super hot out and you normally hit 230f, your car will continue to operate normally but you'll be able to drop the temps faster when the fans go on than before.