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Old 06-13-2015 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mazdafan1892
One thing that was on the reader the code P-0661. I looked that up apparently it relates to the Intake Manifold Tuning Valve Control Low Bank 1a
Ummm wrong:

P0661 - SSV solenoid valve control circuit low

You'll wanna get that looked at, the SSV is very important.

Use this thread to look up codes:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tec...n-guide-26291/

And here about SSV diagnosis
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-...-video-184663/

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Old 06-13-2015 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wcs
Ummm wrong:

P0661 - SSV solenoid valve control circuit low

You'll wanna get that looked at, the SSV is very important.

Use this thread to look up codes:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tec...n-guide-26291/

And here about SSV diagnosis
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-...-video-184663/

Thank you for posting. I tried to do my homework.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tec...ank-1a-239579/

I guess I will be getting it checked out soon. I am looking up more info though anyone have any more feedback on this? Thanks in advance.
Old 06-13-2015 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdafan1892
Thank you for posting. I tried to do my homework.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tec...ank-1a-239579/

I guess I will be getting it checked out soon. I am looking up more info though anyone have any more feedback on this? Thanks in advance.
Ummmm again this:

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tec...9/#post4384772

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go to another thread then because this one is complete BS as pointed out by nycgps

the OP is using a generic OBD2 code reader which does not provide the correct info and is the only one responsible for blah-blah-blah cluelessness

That thread doookie
Old 06-13-2015 | 10:42 PM
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TX rx8 ssv solenoid connectors

i just replaced the three solenoid connectors the blue white and black ones with dean's connectors and all is good now the factory connectors suck and where corroded cut off all and solder on new wires to the the solenoid with dean's and solder dean's to the wire harness
Old 06-14-2015 | 05:42 AM
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i just replaced the three solenoid connectors the blue white and black ones with dean's connectors and all is good now the factory connectors suck and where corroded cut off all and solder on new wires to the the solenoid with dean's and solder dean's to the wire harness
How much did it cost and how long did it take to do if you dont mind me asking?
Old 06-14-2015 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mazdafan1892
How much did it cost and how long did it take to do if you dont mind me asking?
about 15 bucks for all three connectors and about 2 hours its really easy just take off the upper intake manifold off to get to the solenoids and wire harness

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Old 06-14-2015 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lime76015
about 15 bucks for all three connectors and about 2 hours its really easy just take off the upper intake manifold off to get to the solenoids and wire harness
Versus cleaning the SSV? How long is that in comparison?
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Removing and cleaning the SSV could take 4-6hrs depending on the person and their knowledge/comfort level.
Since the CEL was solenoid related, that is where I would focus.

Though you can test the SSV to see if its stuck. Here is that DIY:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-...valves-174009/

You can also test the solenoids using the DIY below, but solenoids do stick open/close so this method is harder to distinguish solenoids sticking.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-...lenoid-190364/

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Old 06-14-2015 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mazdafan1892
Versus cleaning the SSV? How long is that in comparison?
don't know but if you take off the upper intake manifold you can clean the ssv to
Old 06-14-2015 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lime76015
don't know but if you take off the upper intake manifold you can clean the ssv to
code P-0661 is for the solenoid for the ssv and other valves there are three i took off all and tested them and only one worked but after cleaning the contacts and the new connectors they worked fine my light was on but after cleaning and resetting it's off and been off for a while now so if your ssv is not stuck and your rx8 runs like a lawnmower it's the connectors
Old 06-14-2015 | 11:26 PM
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Provided the key is out of the ignition, can I clean a throttle body (including moving the butterfly valve by hand) with out screwing anything up? Supposedly it could cause the car to idle poorly (to high or to low) don't want to have to get it relearned.
Old 06-15-2015 | 12:11 AM
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If it idles poorly after cleaning the TB and nothing else, that means you dropped something into the engine and ruined it, don't do that or you'll look really stupid.

The car relearns anything whether you want it to or not, it's not a big deal.
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F***! Just found out its going to cost me $800-900 dollars to fix. All three solenoids have to be replaced.
Old 06-15-2015 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdafan1892
F***! Just found out its going to cost me $800-900 dollars to fix. All three solenoids have to be replaced.
They do? That sounds fishy, how do 3 solenoid fail at the same time?
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Originally Posted by lime76015
don't know but if you take off the upper intake manifold you can clean the ssv to
When the day comes where you actually have to clean/free a stuck SSV, let us know how that method works for you.

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Old 06-15-2015 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdafan1892
F***! Just found out its going to cost me $800-900 dollars to fix. All three solenoids have to be replaced.
Only the SSV solenoid would need to be changed (which is the solenoid in the middle).
If you are running without a catalytic converter, you can swap the AIR and SSV solenoids (AIR is the upper solenoid).
Old 06-15-2015 | 03:23 PM
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They do? That sounds fishy, how do 3 solenoid fail at the same time?
Dont really know to be honest but freaking $110 dollars an hour to check it out and then the parts and then the labor. Came out to like $800-900 dollars. Nuts. Still have a slow leak tire, an oil change and the ignition teeth sucks. Not to mention the engine shaking which makes the whole car rattle at stop signs so the engine or transmission mount may be a later issue.
Old 06-15-2015 | 03:57 PM
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+1 with Loki

What do you mean ignition teeth?

Motor mounts are a common issue, will cause a lot of shaking.
Old 06-15-2015 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdafan1892
Dont really know to be honest but freaking $110 dollars an hour to check it out and then the parts and then the labor. Came out to like $800-900 dollars. Nuts. Still have a slow leak tire, an oil change and the ignition teeth sucks. Not to mention the engine shaking which makes the whole car rattle at stop signs so the engine or transmission mount may be a later issue.
Do you mind posting exactly what they charged you for? Because it sounds like you're going on a ride, half of these things don't make sense.
Old 06-15-2015 | 07:45 PM
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Do you mind posting exactly what they charged you for? Because it sounds like you're going on a ride, half of these things don't make sense.
They had to look at it which took two hours.
They had to order all three solenoids.
They have to install them. They said its a 3-4 hour job.

Edit: Not sure if its all three they ordered. Thats what they told me, they got me down for a throttle gasket and a intake gasket and a solenoid part. The 3-4 hours of labor will come this week too. Does it really take that long to do? $24 dollars and 8 bucks for a gasket? $ 300 and change for 1 solenoid part?

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Old 06-15-2015 | 09:59 PM
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lol, it's a 2 hour job at most for a dealership, but they are probably charging you book time.

IF you have a small arm. You could Just pull the oil filter then reach your arm around and replace them.
Old 06-16-2015 | 04:54 AM
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+1 with Loki

What do you mean ignition teeth?

Motor mounts are a common issue, will cause a lot of shaking.
Yep heard about that. Yes I meant the ignition teeth the newer models have more teeth which makes the ignition start better. At least thats what I heard.

Originally Posted by logalinipoo
lol, it's a 2 hour job at most for a dealership, but they are probably charging you book time.

IF you have a small arm. You could Just pull the oil filter then reach your arm around and replace them.
I dont know, its out of my hands now cause I am a newbie with my car, dont really know anyone who fixes mazdas( my mechanic hates them) and the dealership I cant tell them what to do. I saw the repair dude he is a big guy no small arms so maybe thats why. Oh they said they had a problem getting past the intake manifold to get to the third solenoid.
Old 06-16-2015 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mazdafan1892
Yep heard about that. Yes I meant the ignition teeth the newer models have more teeth which makes the ignition start better. At least thats what I heard.
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Oh. Huh mmm
I know the Series 2 starter is a direct fit in to a Series 1.
The Series 2 starter is a bit bigger in size, is a stronger faster starter.

I don't believe the Series 2 starter has a different engagement gear (worm gear) or that the tooth count is any different between the starter rings between the two series.
But I don't know , I've never checked or cared to find out.

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Old 06-16-2015 | 09:16 AM
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Well most dealerships charge book time. Which means they have decided that Wort case scenario is will take 4 hours to do this job. So they bill 4 hours for the job. Then if they do it in 1 hour they still charge you 4. If it takes them 5 hours for some reason. They'll charge you for the additional.
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