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Old 10-27-2008 | 03:39 PM
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Do you need a speed bleeder for the master cylinder?

Or just for the clutch and brakes calipers when bleeding the system? If I were to just bleed the brakes, would the new fluid eventually mix into the clutch lines?
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depends; what year is your car?
Late model 05's and later do not have a bleeder on the MC. (US models)
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Mine is an 04 Canadian model.

If they don't exist on the 05's and later, is there really no use to a master cylinder bleeder?
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correct, if your car does not have a bleeder (you should be able to tell by visually inspecting the MC), then there's no need for a bleeder.
I figured this out a few weeks ago when I installed new brake lines on my car and I had already ordered speedbleedres.

I popped the hood and to my surprise, NO BLEEDER.
My buddy's '04 RX-8 (which we also installed brake lines on) had a bleeder.

Are you getting ready to do a brake job or just adding the speedbleeders?
Old 10-27-2008 | 10:25 PM
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I am not changing out lines, just planning on bleeding the brake & clutch lines and lubing the sliders.

Still got that extra clutch bleeder? I'll take it if you do.

I was going to change out the lines, did you notice any improvement over the oem lines?
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Wouldn't the master cylinder get bleeded anyways if I am running new fluid through it towards the brakes?
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No extra clutch bleeder, sorry Byez! (otherwise I'd send it out to you for free)
I definitely feel a difference in my brakes but I also added new rotors, pads and stainless steel lines all at once so it's tough to say exactly what made the improvement.

you should take a look at Richard Pauls' Master Brake brace, that looks like an amazing upgrade. I didn't realize how much that master cylinder moves around until I was bleeding my brakes. The MC literally dances around as you're just pumping the brakes.

The MC is recommended to be bled when doing fluids but if you don't have a bleeder, you don't need to worry about it. Just put the cap on the MC, (don't tighten it down), bleed all the other points and you'll be fine
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Thanks

The manual doesn't really mention anything about bleeding the clutch and I can't find much on this site regarding a clutch bleed. Is this something that is really only necessary when doing a stainless clutch line job?
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