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Old 01-26-2013 | 06:11 AM
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OK The dreaded day has come .. engine rebuild..

Hi all

I am very new to this rx8 club , so new infact i dont actually know how to start my own thread!!!

im hoping someone on her can help me to do that aswell... anyway..

the dreaded day has come i have had my rx8 for 5 months and last week the engine wouldnt start..

i took it to a mazda dealership who done two tests,, a diagnostic and the low compression test,, which actually cost me 185:00 sterling english pounds!! as i live in the uk

anyway the results from the test are as follows..

mileage 51797

cars is flooded, found leads not sitting tightly also front rotor plug cracked,( this plug is now on rear) this car must have been misfiring and overfuelling,
cat melted internally with bits in the exhaust system, advised new cat and exhaust system , new plugs, ht leads and coils once runnung..

compression test front 3.4, 3.9, 3.8 rear 3.8, 4.2, 4.2

mazda state anything below 5.0 requires a new engine

so all in all i need an engine rebuild, new cat and possibly a new exhaust system

if you have seen my photo album of the car you can understand why it would kill me to scrap this car.. plus i bought it 5 months ago from a car dealership not a mazda dealership for 2650 the 192 bhp version which i though was a bargain!!

with me having no knowledge of rotary engines and how to maintain them i feel the fault was partly mine and also partly the previous owner (whoever that is)

the question i ask is,, if i get this rebuilt and the knowledge i have now to look after and maintain the car.. could this happen again two years or more down the line..

p.s all my friends are saying dont do it and get a totally different car,, but in the 5 months i have had the car i absolutley adore her,, plus i got her new shoes, tints an added to the bose system with my own bass box in the boot, and i feel i havent had her long enough to disown and hand her to the scrapyard.. any advise would be much appreciated

thanks
Old 01-26-2013 | 06:36 AM
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I suggest you read this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...t-here-202454/ < Link

It's long, but it is a synopsis of 10 yrs of accumulated knowledge about the RX8.
Old 01-26-2013 | 06:38 AM
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The rebuild and general repairs are going to cost more than what you paid for the car.
Old 01-26-2013 | 07:14 AM
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i agree it will cost more than what i paid.. if i decide to get the car back up and running with a rebuilt engine.. is this going to again happen a year or two down the line?
Old 01-26-2013 | 07:18 AM
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Yes, it might happen again down the road.
The way you rebuild the engine will play a role, as much as the way you'll keep and service the car.
Things like seal clearances, oil pressure, tune, coils\ignition, premix all influence the life of an engine.
I'd get a decently priced remanufactured engine from one of your local builders (Will66 might tell you where and where not to go, he's in the UK) or from mazmart.com and start from there.
With a tune, fresh coils (or upgraded ones), a good catalytic converter and some premix you will probably end up with a mostly trouble free engine.
Also screw mazda europe's service guidelines. Changing oil every 12k miles and the plugs every 60k is a crime.
Old 01-26-2013 | 07:25 AM
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thanks bse50 and alnielsen in taking the time to reply to my posts, at the moment i am stuck between a rock and a hard place.. and what i know now about the rx8 far exceeds what i knew when i first bough the car, there is a firm in my local are called eurojp that specialise in reconditioning/rebuilding engines, i am thinking of using them to rebuild my engine and they offer a 12 month warranty.. however as you have stated its how you look after the car once its rebult which will determine how long it will last,, and this is what i nedd to do excessive homework on..

just a final question.. if you were in my shoes.. what would you do?
Old 01-26-2013 | 07:28 AM
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I don't know what I would do. I'd probably break it and buy a 231hp model.
Old 01-26-2013 | 07:41 AM
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Dropped you a pm icymania
Old 01-26-2013 | 08:59 AM
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I posted this in the other thread where you said you didn't know how to start a new thread.

I guess you figured it out or one of the mods did it for you.

Wow that's a sad story.
I really feel horrible for that RX8

I'm going to go with ... a rotary is too much for you to handle, sell it in hopes that it goes to a better home.
here's some karma for your car getting purchased by a fellow rotard
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