RenKat

Can the engine and trany be removed at the same time ?
If not then why ?

kersh4w

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usually they are removed one and then the other. mostly because a half dozen people arent working on the same car at once.

but if you mean can they both be out of the car at the same time, sure why not?

expo1

I believe if you remove them from the bottom, both can be taken out at the same time.

olddragger

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would not advise this through the top---olddragger

nycgps

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You cant do it if you try to pull it out from the top (engine & tranny at the same time)

you can do it at the bottom.

but I mean, why dont you just take the tranny out from the bottom, then just *drag* the engine out from the top, is much easier that way (its a pain in the *** to take the engine out from the bottom cuz u gotta jack the main frame up high high)

MazdaManiac

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If anyone was watching my live engine swap on the net a few weeks ago, you might have noticed that we actually lifted the motor and tranny out together.
I don't recommend it, but it can be done.
I put them back in separately.

paulmasoner

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dats becuz you haz speshal powaS!!!

ScottyStyles

Not true. I took the engine and tranny out at once through the top, in a low-ceiling, single car garage. I have pictures to prove it, too.

However, I would not, under any circumstance whatsoever, recommend this route.

paulmasoner

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fixored!

Shhhh! dont let the secret out, no one knows that Jeff is actually an incapable figure head for a vast team of actual mad scientists....

MazdaManiac

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I prefer to call them Evil Minions, dontcha know!

nycgps

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Its gonna be a real pain in the ***

Its better to tell people that *it cant be done*

RenKat

What is the issue?

Is it a clearance problem with the ground (trany tail).
Or is it because you have to remove so many other parts (Cross member, Cat, PFF etc)

Im asking because I am going to replace the engine, trany, clutch and cat.

MazdaManiac

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The whole thing ends up dangling at a really acute angle.
You bang into the A/C compressor and lines, heater hard-lines and just about everything else.
There is absolutely NO advantage to trying to do it this way.
I tried it just 'cuz I could.
It sucked.
Having had a dozen of these things out of the car in all possible combinations, I can tell you that pulling the tranny off first (if you are going out the top) is the only way that makes sense.

RenKat

It just seemed like the trany bolts are going be hard to get to.
What kind of tool arrangement did you guys use (long extensions, swivels etc)

MazdaManiac

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Nah, they are directly accessible.
Just drop the PPF and they are all pointed right at you.

RenKat

Thank You All

MazdaManiac

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??
I just unbolt it from the diff, drop it and then unbolt it from the tranny.

Falls right out.

Easy_E1

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Hmmmm,,, Evil maybe on a special occassion. Minion,, agian maybe on a special occassion with the right girl.

MazdaManiac

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I don't understand the question.
I undo the horizontal bolt and then the nuts and it drops right off the diff.
Because of the lever arm, it takes no effort at all to support the PPF from that end.
Then I just let it down to the floor and zap the other end.

nycgps

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That PPF is heavy. I never expected it to be THAT heavy.

oh well, thats how it is.

paulmasoner

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kane was just saying a couple weeks ago how he needs some minions or underlings... maybe you can spare him a few?

olddragger

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it was a good idea for me to put a protective piece of plywood in front of the power streering as insurance. That damn a/c unit was the biggest pita of pulling it. You dont have to but because it is so easy to do i also pulled my front clip as more insurance from accidental dings and stuff.
if i can be of any help just holler out.
olddragger