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Old 06-19-2006 | 06:17 PM
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flash news flash

ok,
the new flash is out...

some of you know of the problems i have had... the sudden powerloss on cruise.... i have pm many about this issue...

well now i can talk about it...

the new flash add more oil during light cruise conditons... what was happening was under light throttle for extended periods of time not enough oil was getting into motor to keep the seals sealed...

gasses would start to get by, engine temp and cat temp would go way up. and you lose the ability to accellerate...

if you let it go long enough you get knock, and then you lose the ability to get over 4k rpm.. (feels like a clogged cat)

then you let it cool down and all is fine...

i have know about this for about 2 months now and could not talk openly about it...

i have also been running pre mix during that time, and not one problem with it during that time...

the flash also is supposed to smooth the idle a bit...

i will let you know, am getting done in the morning..

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Old 06-19-2006 | 06:27 PM
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this would be T for the 04 cars MT and Auto not sure the level for 05s or even if they would need it, but i suspect they would. we'll know more of course once the TSB hits. havent even actually seen the flash yet and i looked for it earlier. maay have missed it. this one took awhile becausde of the need to pass it by epa and carb- changing oil usage could change emissions etc
Old 06-19-2006 | 06:31 PM
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nice to be able to talk about this now!!!!!

btw, i used the last of my premix in this tank. warranty ends in 750 miles... talk about timing...

off to buy a lotto ticket..

btw, if anyone has any ?s please ask or pm me....

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Old 06-19-2006 | 07:00 PM
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Well I guess its time to go to the dealership to get a new flash again ?but I guess gotta wait at least the newest TSB to be out first.
Old 06-19-2006 | 07:00 PM
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Does the new flash smooth the idle with the A/C on? thats where it really needs it.
Old 06-19-2006 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by brillo
Does the new flash smooth the idle with the A/C on? thats where it really needs it.
pm answered... i hope so.... dont know what else they would be doing to the idle...

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Old 06-19-2006 | 07:21 PM
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Now do owners out of warranty ( 66,000 miles) have to pay for a new flash????
Old 06-19-2006 | 07:56 PM
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damn swoope, I wait nearly 2 years to go in and get flashed and now there's another one. an important one no less.

wonder if this was the cause of engine deaths out in the SW. high temps, long distances, cruising speed with light throttle...
Old 06-19-2006 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by expo1
Now do owners out of warranty ( 66,000 miles) have to pay for a new flash????

i would think they will, but will ask that ? tomorrow..

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Old 06-19-2006 | 08:03 PM
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what is a flash? that is exactly what is wrong with my rx8

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Old 06-19-2006 | 08:16 PM
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Hmmm. I always thought 3000 miles on a quart was a bit incredible.
Old 06-19-2006 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by djseto
nothing is wrong with your 8. Its an update. do a search for flash...this is like the 3rd or 4th ones I have had since having my car. its not a big deal, dont freak out.
it is a huge deal for us having this problem.. i am glad you are not dealing with it.. but for us big deal.

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Old 06-19-2006 | 08:25 PM
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yea i just dropped off my rx8 today at the dealership so it is a big deal and something is wrong with my rx8.
Old 06-19-2006 | 08:32 PM
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alway knew my car ran better with the pre mix!!!!!! Good news man! the community I know appreciates your do diligence. I wonder also if the wgt of the recommended oil will change? No way will I run a 5W20 in the summer in GA..Oil pressure at oil temp of 212F is supposed to be around 52 at 3K. Mine could never make that. It would be around 48 or so. I know , I know many factors influence this BUT my car runs better with the 5W 30 RP in the summer here. I can feel it but then i have a sensitve butt)chewed out a lot!)
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Old 06-19-2006 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by swoope
btw, i used the last of my premix in this tank.
Out of curiousity what was your mix ratio (I'm assuming you were premix'n the Gasoline with oil)

100 to 1 ?
Old 06-19-2006 | 08:39 PM
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alway knew my car ran better with the pre mix!!!!!! Good news man! the community I know appreciates your do diligence. I wonder also if the wgt of the recommended oil will change? No way will I run a 5W20 in the summer in GA..Oil pressure at oil temp of 212F is supposed to be around 52 at 3K. Mine could never make that. It would be around 48 or so. I know , I know many factors influence this BUT my car runs better with the 5W 30 RP in the summer here. I can feel it but then i have a sensitve butt)chewed out a lot!)
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funny you should mention that... i switched to 5 30 rp. at 35k miles. did notice a difference. the premix was a huge help...

the next 5 gal jug of rp will be 10 w 40.

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Old 06-19-2006 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wcs
Out of curiousity what was your mix ratio (I'm assuming you were premix'n the Gasoline with oil)

100 to 1 ?
4oz of synt 2cycle oil put in before filling the tank..

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Old 06-19-2006 | 08:41 PM
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as far as I know my 2005 6MT has the R flash, is there another thats newer then this?
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yep my next change is in about 2 wks and I have rp 10W/30 on the selve. I use for pre mix a 50/50 blend of lucas upper clylinder lube/injector cleaner mixed with Yamaha synthetic motorcycle racing premix oil. I use 1/2oz per gallon(basically). Lot of good premix's out there. this is just what I choose.
Toxin--yep new flash
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Old 06-19-2006 | 09:13 PM
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Does that pre-mix smoke at all?
Old 06-19-2006 | 09:17 PM
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nope,
not at all... i have just finished ~ 2 k miles running like this and no difference in the tail smoot...

i will comment that the smoot with rp syn. is much lighter on the tail pipes and easier to get off....

seems like it burns more complete. and is more like ash than the gump from standard oil.

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Old 06-19-2006 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Swoope
4oz of synt 2cycle oil put in before filling the tank..



Scott, I hope you know I'm taking notes....
Old 06-19-2006 | 09:33 PM
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Scott, I hope you know I'm taking notes....
this flash should not require me to do that anymore. not that it really was a pain. my guess is three tanks and we will know..

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Old 06-19-2006 | 10:55 PM
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so are there any drawbacks at all in using premix in the gas?


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