Notices
Series I Tech Garage The place to discuss anything technical about the RX-8 that doesn't fit into any of the categories below.

Gear Oil Smell in Interior?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 02-05-2007 | 12:09 AM
  #26  
swoope's Avatar
Zoom-Freakin'-Zoom
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 14,602
Likes: 36
From: orlando, fl
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Would be nice to get our hands on Swoope's extra tranny and pull it apart......I have some other ideas about how to make it stronger and would love a peek inside.

move to lakeland, it will set you free. and hogcar wins...

you can see the scale and the pen i pointing to what would be my guess is the vent... i can lift it up and spin it...

i wonder if you fill through the shifter it drifts over, or an over fill spits oil....


beers
Attached Thumbnails Gear Oil Smell in Interior?-dscf2571-large-.jpg  
Old 02-05-2007 | 12:17 AM
  #27  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 26
From: Under my car
Originally Posted by swoope
i wonder if you fill through the shifter it drifts over, or an over fill spits oil....
Well, that's part of the mystery - I've got no leakage at all. The entire tranny is completely dry on the outside. Spotless.
So is the turret.
Old 02-05-2007 | 12:38 AM
  #28  
TeamRX8's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,869
Likes: 2,083
how many people smelling this have an uninsulated aftermarket cat/mid pipe?
Old 02-05-2007 | 12:56 AM
  #29  
swoope's Avatar
Zoom-Freakin'-Zoom
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 14,602
Likes: 36
From: orlando, fl
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
how many people smelling this have an uninsulated aftermarket cat/mid pipe?
i think i qualify as not insulated aftermarket cat... and no problem... trans oil was changed at 30k miles with rp... as was the diff...

was done by the dealer while they were replacing my mop...

beers
Old 02-05-2007 | 01:44 AM
  #30  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 26
From: Under my car
What happened to the MOP?
I think mine is sticking open after hard runs.
Old 02-05-2007 | 02:05 AM
  #31  
swoope's Avatar
Zoom-Freakin'-Zoom
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 14,602
Likes: 36
From: orlando, fl
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
What happened to the MOP?
I think mine is sticking open after hard runs.
had a cel, at 18 k miles... they replaced the o2 sensor. then at 30 k miles. with lots of imput the mop was replaced... car never ran bad. but bad stuff happened after...

pm me for the rest of the story...

beers
Old 02-05-2007 | 02:53 AM
  #32  
TeamRX8's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,869
Likes: 2,083
I went to Redline 75W140NS gear oil after the second trans failure, partly because I know my trans is getting much hotter now due to the radiated heat from my exhaust which I know for a fact glows bright cherry red under various throttle conditions (melted the rear O2 wiring connector solid ) and comes a bit closer to the trans due to the straighter run. I never got the gear oil smell until I made that oil change, and I didn't fill it through the shifter because if you ever spill gear oil in the interior you'll never get rid of that smell.
Old 02-05-2007 | 03:08 AM
  #33  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 26
From: Under my car
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
I went to Redline 75W140NS gear oil after the second trans failure, partly because I know my trans is getting much hotter now due to the radiated heat from my exhaust which I know for a fact glows bright cherry red under various throttle conditions (melted the rear O2 wiring connector solid ) and comes a bit closer to the trans due to the straighter run. I never got the gear oil smell until I made that oil change, and I didn't fill it through the shifter because if you ever spill gear oil in the interior you'll never get rid of that smell.
Must be running some monster EGTs. My midpipe doesn't reach those kinds of temps.

The technique for the gear oil requires a few feet of nitrile tubing and a funnel.
Chance of getting gear oil inside the car is nil.
I have a magic potion for oil spills, just in case.
Old 02-05-2007 | 03:15 AM
  #34  
TeamRX8's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,869
Likes: 2,083
ok, I thought you were just pouring it in the hole
Old 02-05-2007 | 12:16 PM
  #35  
LionZoo's Avatar
Thread Starter
road warrior
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,861
Likes: 3
From: Oakland and Los Angeles, CA
I have a full factory exhaust system and have only filled the tranny from underneath the car. I might have gone maybe a tenth of a quart over on this latest fill, but that's the only reason I can thing of.
Old 02-08-2007 | 08:24 PM
  #36  
LionZoo's Avatar
Thread Starter
road warrior
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,861
Likes: 3
From: Oakland and Los Angeles, CA
The dealer (of course) says they can't smell it. I'm going to try sealing the rubber boot this weekend and seeing if that helps.
Old 02-08-2007 | 09:46 PM
  #37  
ULLLOSE's Avatar
05-08 SCCA BS Natl Champ
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,478
Likes: 1
From: Coto de Caza, CA
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
how many people smelling this have an uninsulated aftermarket cat/mid pipe?
I got it at the track day I did with stock cat.... Never had a problem on the street or autocrossing.
Old 02-12-2007 | 11:17 PM
  #38  
musclecarconvrt's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
From: Tennessee
I got the oil smell too after my second trans oil change. No leaks at all, not even any residue. It's absolutely clean and yet, the light smell.
Am I a car geek if I like it?
Old 02-12-2007 | 11:50 PM
  #39  
Razz1's Avatar
Mu ha.. ha...
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,361
Likes: 3
From: Cali
I got it after I added Pre mix.

Had it for 3 tank fulls, then it went away.

Are you sure its not premix?
Old 02-13-2007 | 12:18 AM
  #40  
TeamRX8's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,869
Likes: 2,083
gear oil and exhaust oil are two entirely different smells
Old 02-13-2007 | 01:57 AM
  #41  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 26
From: Under my car
Even though I was entirely sure it was gear oil, I still stuck some up my nose to be sure (for comparison).

Originally Posted by musclecarconvrt
Am I a car geek if I like it?
Yes. Yes, you are.
Actually, if I know that it isn't something immanently failing, I don't mind it either.
The wife has a different opinion...

Last edited by MazdaManiac; 02-13-2007 at 02:06 AM.
Old 02-16-2007 | 03:37 PM
  #42  
MadRonin's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
From: SEPA
Originally Posted by Razz1
I got it after I added Pre mix.

Had it for 3 tank fulls, then it went away.

Are you sure its not premix?
It's not premix. I don't premix (yet - waiting to hear what olddragger finds out from the lab) and I have the smell. Like a lot of folks, the smell started after my first tranny fluid change last June.

Hopefully someone figures out how to get rid of it 'cause I can't stand the smell.
Old 02-16-2007 | 04:44 PM
  #43  
Rhythmic's Avatar
Laid back in the pocket
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 522
Likes: 0
From: Blacksburg, VA
I just noticed the smell after my RP tranny change, but it was probably the most noticable after about 4-5 days of NOT driving the car b/c of winter weather...??? I went to get something out of the car after it had been sitting for 5 days and the smell was very noticable??
Old 03-16-2007 | 01:17 PM
  #44  
climacus's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 600
Likes: 0
From: Toronto ON
I'm reviving this old thread. I just changed the transmission fluid to RP75W90 and now my cabin smells like a giant natural gas leak!! I thought maybe it'll go away after a week, but it's actually getting stronger. Kind of iffy if you think about it cause we've been breathing in the odorless OEM transmission fluid all this time unknowningly.

Why can't aftermarket gear oil be odorless like the OEM fill?!
Old 03-16-2007 | 02:04 PM
  #45  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 26
From: Under my car
OEM oil stinks, too.

I don't know why this is happening and I am stumped.

I checked every seal on the tranny (front, rear, turret and all of the sensors) and I can't find oil anywhere.
Does any manufacturer make a dye that would be benign to the transmission internals that I can add to the oil for a couple of weeks?
Old 03-16-2007 | 02:29 PM
  #46  
Charles R. Hill's Avatar
Owner of BHR
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 4,101
Likes: 45
Yes, on the dye. We use it in the OEM and, with an ultraviolet/black light we see where the leaks are. I'll look into that and see where I can direct you to buy some. Even better, if we have some laying around I'll send it to you. In the meantime, try "apexdyes.com".

Last edited by Charles R. Hill; 03-16-2007 at 02:32 PM.
Old 03-16-2007 | 02:35 PM
  #47  
climacus's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 600
Likes: 0
From: Toronto ON
The only thing I can think of is my OEM fluid fill was a little low. Maybe they underfilled it on purpose.

Do people with the Miata have the same problem?
Old 03-16-2007 | 03:14 PM
  #48  
fullsmoke's Avatar
Anatomy of a corner...
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 536
Likes: 3
From: CT
Same problem here. Been almost 3 weeks now. The smell seems to be dying down though. Only a very faint smell now. I'll give it more time before I tear down the center console.

FS
Old 03-16-2007 | 04:08 PM
  #49  
VarneyMazda's Avatar
Northeast Pimpin'
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,155
Likes: 0
if you want the rid the smell forever guys buy new cabin air filters.
Old 03-16-2007 | 05:52 PM
  #50  
fullsmoke's Avatar
Anatomy of a corner...
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 536
Likes: 3
From: CT
Originally Posted by VarneyMazda
if you want the rid the smell forever guys buy new cabin air filters.
You've obviously never worked with tranny fluid


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:46 PM.