getting my ECU reflashed
#1
getting my ECU reflashed
I've heard alot of talk about reflashing the ecu, but havent read about anyone that has done it yet or what affects it really has on the car. So, I thought Id be try it out and see what happens. Anyways, my car's been at the dealer for about 3 days now getting alot of things checked out, repairing the oil pan, and replacing a broken bolt cover for me. My exploits can be found here, but go to the 4th page to cut alot of crap:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=15378
And, since I know the dealer pretty well, and brought up the idea of reflashing my ecu with one of the mechanics, since I heard alot of people talk about getting better gas milage, more hp, and some other added benifits. However, from what he told me, they cannot reflash the whole ecu, and can only refash error codes or whatever was wrong with the car, but that was 3 days ago. So I just got a call back from him today and he said he figured out a way to reflash it so I can get more HP (supposedly 20 hp.) Naturally I told him to do it, and I will be picking up my car in about 4 hours, so I'll let you know how it goes.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=15378
And, since I know the dealer pretty well, and brought up the idea of reflashing my ecu with one of the mechanics, since I heard alot of people talk about getting better gas milage, more hp, and some other added benifits. However, from what he told me, they cannot reflash the whole ecu, and can only refash error codes or whatever was wrong with the car, but that was 3 days ago. So I just got a call back from him today and he said he figured out a way to reflash it so I can get more HP (supposedly 20 hp.) Naturally I told him to do it, and I will be picking up my car in about 4 hours, so I'll let you know how it goes.
Last edited by Crashunit; 12-18-2003 at 03:22 PM.
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Well I had almost every single warning light on my car come on under 3000 miles (CEL x 2, TP almost everyday, Oil light mainly at a constant high speed, and the car died 2 times during crusing in neutral.) So the PCM was going to have to get reflashed anyways, so I had a talk to my mechanic, and he said he would look into what was capable with reflashing the ECU. Since, I mentioned how the Japanese models make more HP and the only diffrence was in the PCM.
But, since they installed a new oil pan for me, it had to sit for atleast 4 hours before i could drive it, so no luck getting the car today. Sorry for getting everyone excited :p .
But, since they installed a new oil pan for me, it had to sit for atleast 4 hours before i could drive it, so no luck getting the car today. Sorry for getting everyone excited :p .
#8
Originally posted by mikeb
what dealer told you that
I had mine reflashed and nothing changed
what dealer told you that
I had mine reflashed and nothing changed
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When they reflashed your ECU, what did they reflash? And did they change any settings? I think my guy was going to go into specific setting and play with them. I didnt get a change to go into detail about it with him, and was going to ask him after he did it. No point asking about something he hasnt done yet
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Last edited by Crashunit; 12-18-2003 at 06:39 PM.
#9
Ok just got the car back from the dealer and this is what happened. First the oil pan was replaced for fee, tire pressure sensor is really sensitive, so even like 1 or 2 psi off and it will light up (so it can't really be fixed.) And as far as the car shutting off in neutral at a high speed we came to the conclusion it probably has to do with my aftermarket intake, however, it hasnt ever happened again, so I dont think it will be a problem.
Now as far as reflashing my ecu goes, I talked to the mechanic about what he did to the car and this is what he said. Apperently some customers have been complaining about the car being underpowered, and for the people who have really complained alot and also come in with a code, can have the dealer minipulate a code (1666 or 1004 or something) that will change the torque curve and give alittle more HP in the proccess. Supposedly 18-20 HP. Not all the dealers are aware of this however, and its not really a recall. So it can only be done if your car is throwing some kind of code, since they cant reflash a perfectly fine PCM. The change in HP if there was any though is very minimal. The mechanic took my car out for a drive to see, and couldnt really tell if it was because of my intake or the added HP, so the only person who could really tell was me, or mr. dyno. The only thing I sort of noticed was a bit more TQ, and possible more like a 10 HP increase. I have to drive it some more again to tell, since my rental car for the three days was a Deawoo Lanos, and anything after that is like a rocket :p .
Now as far as reflashing my ecu goes, I talked to the mechanic about what he did to the car and this is what he said. Apperently some customers have been complaining about the car being underpowered, and for the people who have really complained alot and also come in with a code, can have the dealer minipulate a code (1666 or 1004 or something) that will change the torque curve and give alittle more HP in the proccess. Supposedly 18-20 HP. Not all the dealers are aware of this however, and its not really a recall. So it can only be done if your car is throwing some kind of code, since they cant reflash a perfectly fine PCM. The change in HP if there was any though is very minimal. The mechanic took my car out for a drive to see, and couldnt really tell if it was because of my intake or the added HP, so the only person who could really tell was me, or mr. dyno. The only thing I sort of noticed was a bit more TQ, and possible more like a 10 HP increase. I have to drive it some more again to tell, since my rental car for the three days was a Deawoo Lanos, and anything after that is like a rocket :p .
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10 hp, 18-20 hp. That may not sound like much to you or I, but Mazda coughed-up $500 + free scheduled maint for the life of the waranty period to those of us who purchased before their 8 HP reduction. This is big & it's a Mazda reflash. How much is Canzoomer's perported increase? Something like 22 hp for non- moded? I'm still 100% stock GT, by the way. I might ask my service dept. & see what they say about this tomorrow. Why I wonder is there no TSB?
#11
Originally posted by Racer X-8
I might ask my service dept. & see what they say about this tomorrow. Why I wonder is there no TSB?
I might ask my service dept. & see what they say about this tomorrow. Why I wonder is there no TSB?
So if you go to your dealer and ask about it, more then likely they wont know what you are talking about. Its something they have to do alot of calling around to figure out how it was done or what to do.
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Now as far as reflashing my ecu goes, I talked to the mechanic about what he did to the car and this is what he said. Apperently some customers have been complaining about the car being underpowered, and for the people who have really complained alot and also come in with a code, can have the dealer minipulate a code (1666 or 1004 or something) that will change the torque curve and give alittle more HP in the proccess. Supposedly 18-20 HP. Not all the dealers are aware of this however, and its not really a recall. So it can only be done if your car is throwing some kind of code, since they cant reflash a perfectly fine PCM. The change in HP if there was any though is very minimal. The mechanic took my car out for a drive to see, and couldnt really tell if it was because of my intake or the added HP, so the only person who could really tell was me, or mr. dyno. The only thing I sort of noticed was a bit more TQ, and possible more like a 10 HP increase. I have to drive it some more again to tell, since my rental car for the three days was a Deawoo Lanos, and anything after that is like a rocket :p . [/B][/QUOTE]
That is a line of crap, the dealer does not have a clue!
Now as far as reflashing my ecu goes, I talked to the mechanic about what he did to the car and this is what he said. Apperently some customers have been complaining about the car being underpowered, and for the people who have really complained alot and also come in with a code, can have the dealer minipulate a code (1666 or 1004 or something) that will change the torque curve and give alittle more HP in the proccess. Supposedly 18-20 HP. Not all the dealers are aware of this however, and its not really a recall. So it can only be done if your car is throwing some kind of code, since they cant reflash a perfectly fine PCM. The change in HP if there was any though is very minimal. The mechanic took my car out for a drive to see, and couldnt really tell if it was because of my intake or the added HP, so the only person who could really tell was me, or mr. dyno. The only thing I sort of noticed was a bit more TQ, and possible more like a 10 HP increase. I have to drive it some more again to tell, since my rental car for the three days was a Deawoo Lanos, and anything after that is like a rocket :p . [/B][/QUOTE]
That is a line of crap, the dealer does not have a clue!
#13
Originally posted by Mazda Monkey
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Now as far as reflashing my ecu goes, I talked to the mechanic about what he did to the car and this is what he said. Apperently some customers have been complaining about the car being underpowered, and for the people who have really complained alot and also come in with a code, can have the dealer minipulate a code (1666 or 1004 or something) that will change the torque curve and give alittle more HP in the proccess. Supposedly 18-20 HP. Not all the dealers are aware of this however, and its not really a recall. So it can only be done if your car is throwing some kind of code, since they cant reflash a perfectly fine PCM. The change in HP if there was any though is very minimal. The mechanic took my car out for a drive to see, and couldnt really tell if it was because of my intake or the added HP, so the only person who could really tell was me, or mr. dyno. The only thing I sort of noticed was a bit more TQ, and possible more like a 10 HP increase. I have to drive it some more again to tell, since my rental car for the three days was a Deawoo Lanos, and anything after that is like a rocket :p .
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Now as far as reflashing my ecu goes, I talked to the mechanic about what he did to the car and this is what he said. Apperently some customers have been complaining about the car being underpowered, and for the people who have really complained alot and also come in with a code, can have the dealer minipulate a code (1666 or 1004 or something) that will change the torque curve and give alittle more HP in the proccess. Supposedly 18-20 HP. Not all the dealers are aware of this however, and its not really a recall. So it can only be done if your car is throwing some kind of code, since they cant reflash a perfectly fine PCM. The change in HP if there was any though is very minimal. The mechanic took my car out for a drive to see, and couldnt really tell if it was because of my intake or the added HP, so the only person who could really tell was me, or mr. dyno. The only thing I sort of noticed was a bit more TQ, and possible more like a 10 HP increase. I have to drive it some more again to tell, since my rental car for the three days was a Deawoo Lanos, and anything after that is like a rocket :p .
Which part is a line of crap? In all honestly now that Ive had the chance to drive the car more, I can infact say I have more power and my gas milage has gotten significantly better since I took it in. I can actually pass in 6th gear and have no more need to shift to 4th gear on the freeway now as well. I am thinking of getting the car dynoed soon too, but will probably wait till i get my exhaust in. But yeah, I just recently had a trip down to San Diago, which is about 137 miles away, and it was alot more fun then it use to be
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Originally posted by Crashunit
Which part is a line of crap?
Which part is a line of crap?
For what it's worth, quite a few people on this forum have posted their experiences with having the ECU reflashed; some have even posted Mazda's internal code (like a part number) for the version that was downloaded to their car.
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Gordon
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Originally posted by Crashunit
That is a line of crap, the dealer does not have a clue!
That is a line of crap, the dealer does not have a clue!
Sounds promising. What kind of gas mileage are you getting now, and what were you getting before? Are you willing now to tell us which dealer this was, and even the mechanic's name? Maybe we can have our mechanics talk to him and start spreading the word. Damn, I'd like a few more mpg's, but the performance improvements you mentioned sound tempting as well.
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Originally posted by Crashunit
That is a line of crap, the dealer does not have a clue!
That is a line of crap, the dealer does not have a clue!
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Everything the dealer told you is BS. They can't change bits & pieces of the mapping. They can only update the entire program from Mazda. The EPA would never allow it.
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