How to make the car faster-anyone?
12-22-2007 | 11:09 PM
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From: Chandler
How to make the car faster-anyone?
With just exhaust and intake thats about 20-30 horses. Making the stock 238hp just up 258-268hp. So let's say 250 to be on the safe side. My car performs like it only has 210hp for some reason. Long story I can tell you later. How do we make the car faster?
(QUESTION MARKS MEANS IM NOT SURE
)
1.) Install a Performance Chip to get dialed in (40hp?) ECU??
2.) 650cc injectors; (xxHP?) what does xxHP equal to? Anyone know? Does it give any HP?
3.) A full open throttle supercharger on the air intake for (10-20hp) is that thing work it at all?? http://www.yourhotcar.com/prod/Super...Stage_2/548722 ?? worth it at all?
4.) 150 shot of NOS (150hp?)
5.) Highflow cats (10hp?)
6.) MSD electric parts for ignition, timing, stronger better sparks on the race plugs, Ignition wires etc. (yyHP)
7.) Underpully kit Wide Grip Belts and Power Pully(15hp?)
8.) Relocate strong battery and capacitor system for good solid electrical stability maybe a race harness? Maybe upgrade the alternator so I can squeeze more juice that may be needed into the batteries and capacitors as needed.
So base is 250hp + 225hp from the items above + xxhp +yyhp. So if the xx + yy didn't add any hp that comes to around 475hp. Is that right? Would that snap the tranny? Anyone running 475hp that can talk about their exp with it?
The only other things I can think of to do is Race or Street port the engine for 100-150hp then throw a simple turbo in there such as a 8lbs. greddy for another 80hp. Even if you played it safe and did a 5lbs greddy with the porting, thats 200 hp more on teh 475hp from above coming to 675hp or there abouts? Is that correct? How fast would that make the RX-8's quarter mile and top speed?
Need info thanks!
(QUESTION MARKS MEANS IM NOT SURE
)1.) Install a Performance Chip to get dialed in (40hp?) ECU??
2.) 650cc injectors; (xxHP?) what does xxHP equal to? Anyone know? Does it give any HP?
3.) A full open throttle supercharger on the air intake for (10-20hp) is that thing work it at all?? http://www.yourhotcar.com/prod/Super...Stage_2/548722 ?? worth it at all?
4.) 150 shot of NOS (150hp?)
5.) Highflow cats (10hp?)
6.) MSD electric parts for ignition, timing, stronger better sparks on the race plugs, Ignition wires etc. (yyHP)
7.) Underpully kit Wide Grip Belts and Power Pully(15hp?)
8.) Relocate strong battery and capacitor system for good solid electrical stability maybe a race harness? Maybe upgrade the alternator so I can squeeze more juice that may be needed into the batteries and capacitors as needed.
So base is 250hp + 225hp from the items above + xxhp +yyhp. So if the xx + yy didn't add any hp that comes to around 475hp. Is that right? Would that snap the tranny? Anyone running 475hp that can talk about their exp with it?
The only other things I can think of to do is Race or Street port the engine for 100-150hp then throw a simple turbo in there such as a 8lbs. greddy for another 80hp. Even if you played it safe and did a 5lbs greddy with the porting, thats 200 hp more on teh 475hp from above coming to 675hp or there abouts? Is that correct? How fast would that make the RX-8's quarter mile and top speed?
Need info thanks!
12-22-2007 | 11:21 PM
#5
It say's Chandler, as in Arizona?
Well first off none of this is going to work.
#1 No one makes
#2 Won't work without a new piggy back EMS
#3 LOL
#4 Blown engine
#5 Only one that will give you increase in numbers. Maybe that much.
#6 Won't work with stock EMS
#7 all show and no go
#8 Why?
Well first off none of this is going to work.
#1 No one makes
#2 Won't work without a new piggy back EMS
#3 LOL
#4 Blown engine
#5 Only one that will give you increase in numbers. Maybe that much.
#6 Won't work with stock EMS
#7 all show and no go
#8 Why?
12-22-2007 | 11:55 PM
#9
With just exhaust and intake thats about 20-30 horses. Making the stock 238hp just up 258-268hp. So let's say 250 to be on the safe side. My car performs like it only has 210hp for some reason. Long story I can tell you later. How do we make the car faster?
(QUESTION MARKS MEANS IM NOT SURE )
1.) Install a Performance Chip to get dialed in (40hp?) ECU??
2.) 650cc injectors; (xxHP?) what does xxHP equal to? Anyone know? Does it give any HP?
3.) A full open throttle supercharger on the air intake for (10-20hp) is that thing work it at all?? http://www.yourhotcar.com/prod/Super...Stage_2/548722 ?? worth it at all?
4.) 150 shot of NOS (150hp?)
5.) Highflow cats (10hp?)
6.) MSD electric parts for ignition, timing, stronger better sparks on the race plugs, Ignition wires etc. (yyHP)
7.) Underpully kit Wide Grip Belts and Power Pully(15hp?)
8.) Relocate strong battery and capacitor system for good solid electrical stability maybe a race harness? Maybe upgrade the alternator so I can squeeze more juice that may be needed into the batteries and capacitors as needed.
So base is 250hp + 225hp from the items above + xxhp +yyhp. So if the xx + yy didn't add any hp that comes to around 475hp. Is that right? Would that snap the tranny? Anyone running 475hp that can talk about their exp with it?
The only other things I can think of to do is Race or Street port the engine for 100-150hp then throw a simple turbo in there such as a 8lbs. greddy for another 80hp. Even if you played it safe and did a 5lbs greddy with the porting, thats 200 hp more on teh 475hp from above coming to 675hp or there abouts? Is that correct? How fast would that make the RX-8's quarter mile and top speed?
Need info thanks!
(QUESTION MARKS MEANS IM NOT SURE
)1.) Install a Performance Chip to get dialed in (40hp?) ECU??
2.) 650cc injectors; (xxHP?) what does xxHP equal to? Anyone know? Does it give any HP?
3.) A full open throttle supercharger on the air intake for (10-20hp) is that thing work it at all?? http://www.yourhotcar.com/prod/Super...Stage_2/548722 ?? worth it at all?
4.) 150 shot of NOS (150hp?)
5.) Highflow cats (10hp?)
6.) MSD electric parts for ignition, timing, stronger better sparks on the race plugs, Ignition wires etc. (yyHP)
7.) Underpully kit Wide Grip Belts and Power Pully(15hp?)
8.) Relocate strong battery and capacitor system for good solid electrical stability maybe a race harness? Maybe upgrade the alternator so I can squeeze more juice that may be needed into the batteries and capacitors as needed.
So base is 250hp + 225hp from the items above + xxhp +yyhp. So if the xx + yy didn't add any hp that comes to around 475hp. Is that right? Would that snap the tranny? Anyone running 475hp that can talk about their exp with it?
The only other things I can think of to do is Race or Street port the engine for 100-150hp then throw a simple turbo in there such as a 8lbs. greddy for another 80hp. Even if you played it safe and did a 5lbs greddy with the porting, thats 200 hp more on teh 475hp from above coming to 675hp or there abouts? Is that correct? How fast would that make the RX-8's quarter mile and top speed?
Need info thanks!
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12-23-2007 | 12:24 AM
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From: Chandler
Sure it would work
Lets pretend my current pretty much stock is 210hp with exhaust and intake. Some say more and some say less.
1.) Yes they do have a chip for it. It's $1100+ check Google. The nerdy bastards just finished the chip and listed the complete White Paper on it. Dyno shows HP is up 40 but they couldn't do ANYTHING AT ALL to improve gas mileage. The engineers at Mazda did a real good job getting the best possible gas mileage out of the engine possible. The super nerds remapped key points and got more hp but tied with GM. Also check Petti Racing for ECU flashing. 40HP
2.) FITMENT: 2004+ Mazda RX8; ECU Tuning Required ECU remap found here ->
http://www.pettitracing.com/rx8/index.htm Again no EMS needed http://www.importedinnovations.com/p...oducts_id=1860 just ECU adjustments
Injectors you can get here and the site doesn't indicate you need an EMS
http://www.jscspeed.com/rx8/fi/rc_injectors.htm I'm pretty sure an EMS isn't needed. But if you think it is maybe you should just your system remapped. If you know that doesn't work 100% I do know you need a remap on the ECU and that's pretty much it with larger injectors an a compressor.
http://www.pettitracing.com/faq/compressor_promo.htm
3.) LOL? Have you ever tired it? In theory it does work. With what was listed, maybe it doesn't. Maybe thats a cheap knock off. However, it works on the same concept as a compressor from Petti Racing. Again 300+hp and over 200lb-ft with one simple mod. of number 3.) lol! http://www.pettitracing.com/faq/compressor_promo.htm 2+3 = 80hp.
results thus far A. 80+40=+120HP on my pretty much stock. Total is 330hp
4.) Where does NOS blow the engine? Apex seals? What's the matter? You can't the 3mm ceramic apex seals to hold it all together? So maybe you can't. You still drop it down to a 75 shot and get 1/2 that. Ok fine your stuck with 75hp. But if you want to think for yourself and not listen to others you can get 125hp out of nos. http://www.turborx7.com/nitrous.htm Results A. at 330hp + 75 hp from the weakass nos system. That's a combo of 405hp.
5.) I was conservative on high flow cats. Strait pipe it if need be. But some high flow cats off 15-17hp. Again check Google or High Flow Cats at cat Dyno Results http://www.srmotorsports.com/RX8_Packages.html Lets say all we get is 10hp on that 405 from number 4. That's 415hp total.
6.) Im a nerd. MSD is short in my mind for advanced ignition system. Try HKS instead of an acutal MSD
http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...ID=4885&VID=27
If you don't like HKS maybe greddy system will work. http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...ID=1658&VID=27
Let's say this is needed to get that 415hp so we never moved up.
7.) pullys on dyno - http://www.srmotorsports.com/RX8_Dyno_Pulleys.jpg
6+7 now totals 430hp.
8.) Better weight distrobution. Added weight in the rear = closer to 50/50 weight distro for the car. Also free up a little space for the turbo, blowoff, etc. depending on that design.
That's only 20hp short of what I stated with a stronger nos system and a flimsy compressor system. We have links above to prove the facts. What's wrong with the numbers?
1.) Yes they do have a chip for it. It's $1100+ check Google. The nerdy bastards just finished the chip and listed the complete White Paper on it. Dyno shows HP is up 40 but they couldn't do ANYTHING AT ALL to improve gas mileage. The engineers at Mazda did a real good job getting the best possible gas mileage out of the engine possible. The super nerds remapped key points and got more hp but tied with GM. Also check Petti Racing for ECU flashing. 40HP
2.) FITMENT: 2004+ Mazda RX8; ECU Tuning Required ECU remap found here ->
http://www.pettitracing.com/rx8/index.htm Again no EMS needed http://www.importedinnovations.com/p...oducts_id=1860 just ECU adjustments
Injectors you can get here and the site doesn't indicate you need an EMS
http://www.jscspeed.com/rx8/fi/rc_injectors.htm I'm pretty sure an EMS isn't needed. But if you think it is maybe you should just your system remapped. If you know that doesn't work 100% I do know you need a remap on the ECU and that's pretty much it with larger injectors an a compressor.
http://www.pettitracing.com/faq/compressor_promo.htm
3.) LOL? Have you ever tired it? In theory it does work. With what was listed, maybe it doesn't. Maybe thats a cheap knock off. However, it works on the same concept as a compressor from Petti Racing. Again 300+hp and over 200lb-ft with one simple mod. of number 3.) lol! http://www.pettitracing.com/faq/compressor_promo.htm 2+3 = 80hp.
results thus far A. 80+40=+120HP on my pretty much stock. Total is 330hp
4.) Where does NOS blow the engine? Apex seals? What's the matter? You can't the 3mm ceramic apex seals to hold it all together? So maybe you can't. You still drop it down to a 75 shot and get 1/2 that. Ok fine your stuck with 75hp. But if you want to think for yourself and not listen to others you can get 125hp out of nos. http://www.turborx7.com/nitrous.htm Results A. at 330hp + 75 hp from the weakass nos system. That's a combo of 405hp.
5.) I was conservative on high flow cats. Strait pipe it if need be. But some high flow cats off 15-17hp. Again check Google or High Flow Cats at cat Dyno Results http://www.srmotorsports.com/RX8_Packages.html Lets say all we get is 10hp on that 405 from number 4. That's 415hp total.
6.) Im a nerd. MSD is short in my mind for advanced ignition system. Try HKS instead of an acutal MSD
http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...ID=4885&VID=27
If you don't like HKS maybe greddy system will work. http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...ID=1658&VID=27
Let's say this is needed to get that 415hp so we never moved up.
7.) pullys on dyno - http://www.srmotorsports.com/RX8_Dyno_Pulleys.jpg
6+7 now totals 430hp.
8.) Better weight distrobution. Added weight in the rear = closer to 50/50 weight distro for the car. Also free up a little space for the turbo, blowoff, etc. depending on that design.
That's only 20hp short of what I stated with a stronger nos system and a flimsy compressor system. We have links above to prove the facts. What's wrong with the numbers?
Last edited by parable; 12-23-2007 at 12:40 AM.
12-23-2007 | 12:46 AM
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Technical Data:
Conclusion:
FAIL
With just exhaust and intake thats about 20-30 horses. Making the stock 238hp just up 258-268hp. So let's say 250 to be on the safe side. My car performs like it only has 210hp for some reason. Long story I can tell you later. How do we make the car faster?
(QUESTION MARKS MEANS IM NOT SURE )
1.) Install a Performance Chip to get dialed in (40hp?) ECU??
2.) 650cc injectors; (xxHP?) what does xxHP equal to? Anyone know? Does it give any HP?
3.) A full open throttle supercharger on the air intake for (10-20hp) is that thing work it at all?? http://www.yourhotcar.com/prod/Super...Stage_2/548722 ?? worth it at all?
4.) 150 shot of NOS (150hp?)
5.) Highflow cats (10hp?)
6.) MSD electric parts for ignition, timing, stronger better sparks on the race plugs, Ignition wires etc. (yyHP)
7.) Underpully kit Wide Grip Belts and Power Pully(15hp?)
8.) Relocate strong battery and capacitor system for good solid electrical stability maybe a race harness? Maybe upgrade the alternator so I can squeeze more juice that may be needed into the batteries and capacitors as needed.
So base is 250hp + 225hp from the items above + xxhp +yyhp. So if the xx + yy didn't add any hp that comes to around 475hp. Is that right? Would that snap the tranny? Anyone running 475hp that can talk about their exp with it?
The only other things I can think of to do is Race or Street port the engine for 100-150hp then throw a simple turbo in there such as a 8lbs. greddy for another 80hp. Even if you played it safe and did a 5lbs greddy with the porting, thats 200 hp more on teh 475hp from above coming to 675hp or there abouts? Is that correct? How fast would that make the RX-8's quarter mile and top speed?
Need info thanks!
(QUESTION MARKS MEANS IM NOT SURE
)1.) Install a Performance Chip to get dialed in (40hp?) ECU??
2.) 650cc injectors; (xxHP?) what does xxHP equal to? Anyone know? Does it give any HP?
3.) A full open throttle supercharger on the air intake for (10-20hp) is that thing work it at all?? http://www.yourhotcar.com/prod/Super...Stage_2/548722 ?? worth it at all?
4.) 150 shot of NOS (150hp?)
5.) Highflow cats (10hp?)
6.) MSD electric parts for ignition, timing, stronger better sparks on the race plugs, Ignition wires etc. (yyHP)
7.) Underpully kit Wide Grip Belts and Power Pully(15hp?)
8.) Relocate strong battery and capacitor system for good solid electrical stability maybe a race harness? Maybe upgrade the alternator so I can squeeze more juice that may be needed into the batteries and capacitors as needed.
So base is 250hp + 225hp from the items above + xxhp +yyhp. So if the xx + yy didn't add any hp that comes to around 475hp. Is that right? Would that snap the tranny? Anyone running 475hp that can talk about their exp with it?
The only other things I can think of to do is Race or Street port the engine for 100-150hp then throw a simple turbo in there such as a 8lbs. greddy for another 80hp. Even if you played it safe and did a 5lbs greddy with the porting, thats 200 hp more on teh 475hp from above coming to 675hp or there abouts? Is that correct? How fast would that make the RX-8's quarter mile and top speed?
Need info thanks!
FAIL
12-23-2007 | 12:54 AM
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Ok like I said...the first assumption fails because of the nos and flimsy compressor.
What about the second listing? Where does it fail? Can you list anything technical? Do you have dyno reports on particular parts? Do you have a website with exact information showing dyno results, lab test, track test ext.
Other than your Holy Word, your majesty, where does it fail?
Can you please provide some proof the of contrary because I can't find any other than people like you on boards who say: FAIL!
BTW: What do you have in your RX-8? Any upgrades or is it running stock?
What about the second listing? Where does it fail? Can you list anything technical? Do you have dyno reports on particular parts? Do you have a website with exact information showing dyno results, lab test, track test ext.
Other than your Holy Word, your majesty, where does it fail?
Can you please provide some proof the of contrary because I can't find any other than people like you on boards who say: FAIL!
BTW: What do you have in your RX-8? Any upgrades or is it running stock?
12-23-2007 | 01:10 AM
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Ok like I said...the first assumption fails because of the nos and flimsy compressor.
What about the second listing? Where does it fail? Can you list anything technical? Do you have dyno reports on particular parts? Do you have a website with exact information showing dyno results, lab test, track test ext.
Other than your Holy Word, your majesty, where does it fail?
Can you please provide some proof the of contrary because I can't find any other than people like you on boards who say: FAIL!
BTW: What do you have in your RX-8? Any upgrades or is it running stock?
What about the second listing? Where does it fail? Can you list anything technical? Do you have dyno reports on particular parts? Do you have a website with exact information showing dyno results, lab test, track test ext.
Other than your Holy Word, your majesty, where does it fail?
Can you please provide some proof the of contrary because I can't find any other than people like you on boards who say: FAIL!
BTW: What do you have in your RX-8? Any upgrades or is it running stock?
12-23-2007 | 01:16 AM
#21
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/power-adders-fi-dummies-turbo-supercharger-nitrous-122645/
As for the injectors - extra fuel doesn't do anything unless you can get extra air to it - thus the Forced Induction.
The numbers advertised first of all are seldom if ever 100% of the story... go get a copy of Project Car Tuner; they do all the standard car mods with before and after dynos on the same car - helps you see the ACTUAL difference.
As for the injectors - extra fuel doesn't do anything unless you can get extra air to it - thus the Forced Induction.
The numbers advertised first of all are seldom if ever 100% of the story... go get a copy of Project Car Tuner; they do all the standard car mods with before and after dynos on the same car - helps you see the ACTUAL difference.
12-23-2007 | 01:31 AM
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I'd suggest the tubronator, the ebay performance chip, the ebay gas mileage extender (it's a magnet), and to top it all off... the biggest wing you can find to keep that bad boy on the ground.
12-23-2007 | 01:36 AM
#23
just buy one of the t3/t4 turbos off ebay for 170$ and duct tape it to your intake.......make sure you tape it tight or it wont work.......you should get 400 hp from that and make 10 sec passes
12-23-2007 | 01:39 AM
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RX8 HA HA
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first you need this:
after that go buy this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fake-...spagenameZWDVW
this helps as well..atleast like 13 horsepowers
and last but not least the mother of all horsepowers..
http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...products_id=28
the capacitating flux!
after that go buy this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fake-...spagenameZWDVW
this helps as well..atleast like 13 horsepowers
and last but not least the mother of all horsepowers..
http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...products_id=28
the capacitating flux!