cyclone1208

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wow i would be terrified if mine idled that low.....usually it just stalls out on me around 600 rpm

ms70616

hmmm i dont know, thanks for the help and info guys. Im gonna take it back on tuesday and its either going to get fixed or im gonna go higher up on the ladder.

Brettus

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just out of curiosity what RPM does the fuel cut happen at the other end of the scale ?

bose

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The engine only cranks at 200-250 rpm. Your gauge has got to be off or something.

ms70616

not sure what you mean by fuel cut? when cold it will idle slightly above 1000 then when warm it drops down to about 200-300

Brettus

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/\ when you floor it and keep your foot down till the fuel cut kicks in - it should read about 9500 rpm on the guage (which in reality is 9000 rpm).....

kersh4w

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when cold my car will idle at 2000 then eventually drop to 1000-900.



i think my car is the normal one. this dealership is fucked up, i would be screaming bloody murder if they released my car back to me with nothing wrong. in fact, i know my dealership wouldnt ever do that to me, because they know me and know they'd have to take a bite out of such a large **** sandwich everyone would stare and gasp.

ms70616

not sure ill test that sometime tonight and let you know

greg985

does you car shake really bad when idle? My car shakes if idle is any were nere 600. I couldnt imagine 200. Something must be wrong with your Tech

MazdaManiac

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The fuel tables only go down to 500.
The idle control starts at 250.
You could effectively keep the car from even starting by just setting the rev limit to 250.
So, I think there is something else going on here.

ms70616

no, car does not shake or vibrate at all really, i cant really tell its running when its warmed up and at idle

Brettus

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/\ i was thinking the whole scale was out
ie if reading 200 when it should be 800
at fuel cut it may only read 9000 instead of 9500 .

ms70616

im not real knowledgeable about this type thing but that makes since to me, but why wouldnt the tech catch it

ms70616

also is the scale stored in the ECU? is that what controls it because they reflashed it last week

Brettus

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/\ and the problem started after they reflashed it ?

ms70616

ok the fuel cut is at 9000, and no the flash was a step to try and fix the problem. The problem was there before the flash

Brettus

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ok - it should be at 9500 . So it seems your whole guage is reading 5-600 low across the board .

kersh4w

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i think the needle may just need adjusting..

Brettus

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/\ yes give it a tweak to the right - LOL

ms70616

really?? something that simple?

zoom44

because they are lying to you.

teknics

BINGO! Bad dealerships FTL.

kevin.

ms70616

ok so an update on my car situation in case someone wants to know. The dealership had it all day today and they have narrowed it down and they believe the problem is the PCM. They are doing some more tests tomorrow to make sure. They quoted me 1200 for a re-manufactured PCM from mazda

zoom44

year and miles? they have ruled out the CAN controller for the dashboard?

ms70616

it is an 04 with about 87000. They said that they had ruled it out and they also call the higher up tech guys at mazda and they also confirmed the situation and that it has happened in about 15, of the 04 RX8's. They got 3 codes, random misfire, throttle position sensor, and a throttle control position sensor i believe. ( not 100% sure on that last one but it was something with the throttle pedal).