Increasing max speed/removing the governor
#26
Originally Posted by Gord96BRG
The misinformation in this thread is amazing.
Here's the real facts:
- In 5th gear, there is NO governor - you should be able to hit the rev limiter in 5th, which is around 148 mph.
- In 6th gear, there IS a limit at 148 mph. This isn't some random number - Mazda chose 240 km/h as the limiter speed, which happens to equate to ~148 mph.
- It's German car manufacturers VW, BMW, Mercedes, and Audi who have a voluntary agreement to limit top speeds to 155 mph (actually, 250 km/h). Porsche has never been part of that agreement. Mazda has nothing to do with it, and as mentioned uses a 240 km/h limit.
Here's the real facts:
- In 5th gear, there is NO governor - you should be able to hit the rev limiter in 5th, which is around 148 mph.
- In 6th gear, there IS a limit at 148 mph. This isn't some random number - Mazda chose 240 km/h as the limiter speed, which happens to equate to ~148 mph.
- It's German car manufacturers VW, BMW, Mercedes, and Audi who have a voluntary agreement to limit top speeds to 155 mph (actually, 250 km/h). Porsche has never been part of that agreement. Mazda has nothing to do with it, and as mentioned uses a 240 km/h limit.
1) My (german) RX-8 so far topped at 253 km/h (approx. 153 mph). I also went beyond 240 km/h several times.
2) VW is not an official member of that agreement, they limit their cars at a higher speed. They don't have many cars that are that fast though. Besides that, the agreement is about to fall soon, and manufacturers start to leak "true" top speeds (e. g. 310 km/h for the new BMW M5, which is said to reach 270 km/h with limiter btw) and (inofficially) also offer to remove the limiter on request.
Last edited by AQA101; 01-09-2005 at 05:22 PM.
#28
Originally Posted by speedaholic
my 8 is JDM version, it have speed limiter at 180 km/h and I instaled HKS speed de-limiter and so far I hit 245 km/h but it still going faster
#29
Does anyone else see the contradiction in bringing up the concept of "need" when discussing the RX-8's top speed while being an owner of an RX-8? The car, itself, satisfies no objective need. The RX-8's creation was based solely on "want". That's good enough for me.
CRH
CRH
#31
Hey V, if you read my post in the context of other responses you have received, I was giving support to the notion that other RX-8 owners who questioned your stated need to remove the speed governor were hypocrites in doing so. Apparently, you missed the point. Since you are quick to put me on the couch, which psychological needs (again with the word "need") are they you think I am satisfying here with my responses? If you get them correct, I'll promptly admit it.
CRH
CRH
#32
ok charles, i could have read you wrongly, apologies. anyhow, i'm still curious about the digital reading for JDM cars if it should read the actual speed instead of showing around 180km +. cheers!
#33
Have I ever exceeded the speed limit?
Sure! Only by 10 or 15 mph though!
Next time you feel the irresponsible "need" for speed on our public highways,
kindly notify me at 1-800-URA-RETARD so I can get my kids off the street!
This kind of speed is acceptable on the track but not on our streets.
Ask ER-DOC if he wants your business....
I'm sure he has a snow shovel with your name on it...
Sure! Only by 10 or 15 mph though!
Next time you feel the irresponsible "need" for speed on our public highways,
kindly notify me at 1-800-URA-RETARD so I can get my kids off the street!
This kind of speed is acceptable on the track but not on our streets.
Ask ER-DOC if he wants your business....
I'm sure he has a snow shovel with your name on it...
#34
no offense here RX8 MD, but if you read where i'm from...it reads MALAYSIA. we have a F1 track here to test our cars, should we decide to go beyond what you describe as irresponsible. I think before you start criticizing other people's decision to 'break the law', do understand in what circumstances would this person be perfoming such dire acts. Anyhow, i'm just wondering if anybody knows about the actual readings on a JDM model should a RSM be installed. I am not here to ask for a hard time nor your personal opinions on how to be responsible on the road. thank you.
#35
Originally Posted by voyager18
no offense here RX8 MD, but if you read where i'm from...it reads MALAYSIA. we have a F1 track here to test our cars, should we decide to go beyond what you describe as irresponsible. I think before you start criticizing other people's decision to 'break the law', do understand in what circumstances would this person be perfoming such dire acts. Anyhow, i'm just wondering if anybody knows about the actual readings on a JDM model should a RSM be installed. I am not here to ask for a hard time nor your personal opinions on how to be responsible on the road. thank you.
My post was not directed towards track racers (you).
The original post of this thread states "he had 20 miles of open highway".
If you want to speed and endanger yourself,
thats fine,
I have no concern for what you do to yourself on the track.
Spend some time working in an ER putting broken bodies back together....
When you have to tell a parent that you couldn't save their 7 year old (who was
hit by a speeding driver).... I'll stop giving my opinion...
PS: if you don't like what I have to say, feel free to block my posts!
#37
Originally Posted by Rx8_MD
Well, Sir, forums are all about opinions.
My post was not directed towards track racers (you).
The original post of this thread states "he had 20 miles of open highway".
If you want to speed and endanger yourself,
thats fine,
I have no concern for what you do to yourself on the track.
Spend some time working in an ER putting broken bodies back together....
When you have to tell a parent that you couldn't save their 7 year old (who was
hit by a speeding driver).... I'll stop giving my opinion...
PS: if you don't like what I have to say, feel free to block my posts!
My post was not directed towards track racers (you).
The original post of this thread states "he had 20 miles of open highway".
If you want to speed and endanger yourself,
thats fine,
I have no concern for what you do to yourself on the track.
Spend some time working in an ER putting broken bodies back together....
When you have to tell a parent that you couldn't save their 7 year old (who was
hit by a speeding driver).... I'll stop giving my opinion...
PS: if you don't like what I have to say, feel free to block my posts!
Going 10 to 15 miles over the speed limit can be dangerous in some instances. Going 140 on a straight away CAN be safer if the road conditions allow. People do it in Germany and Montana all the time. It can be done safely.
Start your own thread.
-Mr. Wigggles
Last edited by MrWigggles; 02-20-2005 at 01:45 AM.
#39
There is nothing I can say that will stop any of you from speeding and endangering the inocent....
After all, we're all in a mindset that "it'll never happen to me"....
I'm here to tell you "it does happen", people die everyday at the hands of someone like us.
Unless you've seen combat in the military or worked for Emergency Services
(IE: Law Enforcement. Fire or Medical), most of you (fortunately) will never
see what we've seen, feel what we feel when a senseless, traumatic death
occurs in our presence.
So, do what you must. There is a price to pay for every action you take
and when your 300 lb cellmate is making you his wife... please, remember
all your friends here at the club...
I'm done preaching.
It's hard to take advice from a guy who posts "Why do I cry when I **********?"
After all, we're all in a mindset that "it'll never happen to me"....
I'm here to tell you "it does happen", people die everyday at the hands of someone like us.
Unless you've seen combat in the military or worked for Emergency Services
(IE: Law Enforcement. Fire or Medical), most of you (fortunately) will never
see what we've seen, feel what we feel when a senseless, traumatic death
occurs in our presence.
So, do what you must. There is a price to pay for every action you take
and when your 300 lb cellmate is making you his wife... please, remember
all your friends here at the club...
I'm done preaching.
Originally Posted by MrWigggles
Start your own thread.
-Mr. Wigggles
-Mr. Wigggles
#40
tok my car up to 135MPH, its ******* fast, if i wanted to go any faster i would **** my pants. The reason i feel that most ppl want to speed is to have a sense that what they payed for should go fast, no matter what car you have. Its sometimes good to experiment new things.
#41
Rx8 MD,
I am glad you read all of my work.
My comment about crying was in a thread entitled "Random Crap...". I gave my thoughts which were random so they fit that thread very well.
Three general "speed kills" diatribes on your own part don't contribute to the thread starters question of: "What is the max speed of the RX-8?"
Start your own thread.
-Mr. Wigggles
I am glad you read all of my work.
My comment about crying was in a thread entitled "Random Crap...". I gave my thoughts which were random so they fit that thread very well.
Three general "speed kills" diatribes on your own part don't contribute to the thread starters question of: "What is the max speed of the RX-8?"
Start your own thread.
-Mr. Wigggles
#43
Originally Posted by MrWigggles
Rx8 MD,
I am glad you read all of my work.
My comment about crying was in a thread entitled "Random Crap...". I gave my thoughts which were random so they fit that thread very well.
Three general "speed kills" diatribes on your own part don't contribute to the thread starters question of: "What is the max speed of the RX-8?"
Start your own thread.
-Mr. Wigggles
I am glad you read all of my work.
My comment about crying was in a thread entitled "Random Crap...". I gave my thoughts which were random so they fit that thread very well.
Three general "speed kills" diatribes on your own part don't contribute to the thread starters question of: "What is the max speed of the RX-8?"
Start your own thread.
-Mr. Wigggles
#44
I wonder what this same doctor/e.r. tech is doing about the risk to patients' health and welfare by the medical profession's demand for 24 and 36 hour shifts? What's more risky? Driving 20 m.p.h. over a posted speed limit on a freeway that is technically designed for sustained speeds of 85 m.p.h. or going under the knife in an emergency room at the end of the 24 hour shift?
CRH
CRH
Last edited by Charles R. Hill; 02-23-2005 at 02:25 AM.
#45
If you hadn't realized, I am the person who originally opened this thread. The reason I asked this is because I live in the St. Louis area next to Gateway International Speedway. On some weekends they open the course and also have open drags on their 1/4 mile strip weekly. All I originally wanted to find out was what the 8 was actually capable of so I could put myself in a comparible class when going to Gateway. In respect to RX8_MD, my mom is an RN in the cardio thorasic unit at one of the top 10 hospitals in the nation. Trust me, I've heard the stories and seen some of it first hand by donating time at the hospital. I know the consequences of what can happen. I figure the more knowledge I have of this car, the better I will know it and know what to expect and when. Keep on posting, so far everything is educational, but please keep your parental type preaching to another thread.
Thank you.
Thank you.
#46
the top speed i hit on my 8 was 153 mph , Now that i think about it i dont remember what gear i was in but nothing kick in i just came to my senses and slowed down.the car was bought in the usa.
#47
07' RX-8 GT Automatic here. Just recently hit 125mph on the highway in 4th gear and at 7k rpms and the car jolted like giving the brakes a good tap. Was unexpected and disappointing. How do you turn off this limiter.
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