Mazda new engine replacement program
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Interesting
wonder if the cars have some service history in common besides high mileage ... very low mpg ... multiple floodings ect.
Any update Omicron?
wonder if the cars have some service history in common besides high mileage ... very low mpg ... multiple floodings ect.
Any update Omicron?
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I just checked it out on Kelly and a 2004 Rx8 w/30000 miles on it and lets say -- just a Sports Package -- isnt even worth $20000 today in good condition (based on private party sales). I guess a 30000 mile Rx8 w/a 0 mile engine could be sold for a couplegrand more by using a little bargaining power.
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I just checked it out on Kelly and a 2004 Rx8 w/30000 miles on it and lets say -- just a Sports Package -- isnt even worth $20000 today in good condition (based on private party sales). I guess a 30000 mile Rx8 w/a 0 mile engine could be sold for a couplegrand more by using a little bargaining power.
Not necessarily as you'll have to explain the reason to have a new engine when the old one only had 30 some thousand miles... I can hear it now: "It broke already?" Mazda research? Is it a bad engine? And the majority of people still thinks the rotary is unreliable.
When I was shopping for a 3rd gen I stayed away from new or rebuilt engines and turbos because you never really know what happened. I bought the one I have with the original engine and less than 35k miles.
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Originally Posted by Frank Patrick
Called Mazda NA --(Lee- customer service) 1800 222 5500- ext. 1147--it is true--Mazda IS replacing some engines for FREE at 30 K.
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Why would you pay your dealers in another country to pull perfectly good engines, ship them back to Japan, and pay technicians to dissect the very engines they built? That's an awful lot of smoke if there isn't any fire. Mine has almost 24,000 on the clock now in only one year and all is well. ... isn't it? I would feel a lot better if my basic warranty wasn't going to run out some time next summer / fall when I kick over 36k.
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Originally Posted by musclecarconvrt
I would feel a lot better if my basic warranty wasn't going to run out some time next summer / fall when I kick over 36k.
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Remember that episode of the Simpson's where this guy thought they said:
"The PTA is disbanding"
He then yelled and broken through a window...
That's about to be me if someone does not come up with better information, LOL. Frank Patrick thanks for the info but you left my jaw on the ground....
AND....AND....AND....what else did he say?
I bet it was just a yes (without detail) but I can't talk to you about it type of conversation, I hope all is well at Mazda and the new engine with MORE HP theory is the right one...lol
Someone hold me....LOL
"The PTA is disbanding"
He then yelled and broken through a window...
That's about to be me if someone does not come up with better information, LOL. Frank Patrick thanks for the info but you left my jaw on the ground....
AND....AND....AND....what else did he say?
I bet it was just a yes (without detail) but I can't talk to you about it type of conversation, I hope all is well at Mazda and the new engine with MORE HP theory is the right one...lol
Someone hold me....LOL
#63
"Isn't your warranty 48 months or 48,000 miles? That what it is on my 2004."
I sure thought it was 36k, but I would like to be wrong. In any case, it's alarming that Mazda is spot checking be replacing whole engines.
I sure thought it was 36k, but I would like to be wrong. In any case, it's alarming that Mazda is spot checking be replacing whole engines.
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I recall that BMW did a big number their build quality with the first generation M3 track racing cars that used crankshafts from bought back standard M3 engines with high milage. The real reason was not really the quality but that the high milage had removed all tensions etc in the old crankshafts and they could stress the engines a bit more compared to new crankshafts... Guess it is wishfull tinking, but could someting similar be valid for parts of the Renesis engine?
Cheers, Niclas
Cheers, Niclas
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Mazda do research all over the world INCLUDING THE USA.
Nothing unusual about an engine swap program... these are complete engines and would be installed in a day.
Its called market research at the grass roots level...the owner!!
This is one way how the Japs (Mazda) improve their product.
Nothing unusual about an engine swap program... these are complete engines and would be installed in a day.
Its called market research at the grass roots level...the owner!!
This is one way how the Japs (Mazda) improve their product.
#68
I'm from Germany and they swapped my engine at 55.000km (34.000 miles). It was a complete engine and the new one runs great ! I think in germany the waste of the engine is much more than in the USA. My engine passed more than half of the distance with WOT on the autobahn.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
nicce, your query about racing engines that had been "pre-stressed" is a good one. Whether or not it applies here is a different story. Back when I was racing musclecars we would take an engine block and let it sit out in the Michigan weather for 2-3 years because the temperature fluctuations were thought to cause the iron to settle and lead to a more reliable align-bore of the crank centerline and cylinder bore.
I'll tell ya, if Mazda wants an engine to look at as an example of how reliable the Renesis is I'd gladly fork over my well-abused nitrous engine that still runs great. If they did a swap I would ask to be given a few days to port the replacment engine before it was installed.
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I'll tell ya, if Mazda wants an engine to look at as an example of how reliable the Renesis is I'd gladly fork over my well-abused nitrous engine that still runs great. If they did a swap I would ask to be given a few days to port the replacment engine before it was installed.
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I don't know how true this engine swap can be.... My RX8 has been at the dealer for 7 days now, major engine problems. The techs have called Mazda and ran a bunch of tests. Mazda corporate doesn't know what is wrong. I hope to get a new engine out of this. If this swap is true - my engine would be perfect. If they want to see how the RX8 engine is holding up - they can have mine. I just want my RX8 back.
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