Mazmarts oil pressure bypass install with some surprising findings!
02-01-2010, 11:32 AM
#126
Oh Jeeze, my head has gone loopy 
after reading all the pages of this post!
As a brand new owner of an '06 w/34k miles, this thread scares the hell outta me!
Especially since I have no clue of it's oil usage history, but a big 5w-20 written in feminine cursive on the manual cover. Now I'm itchin' to do a compression check! (Oh and when I do a search for more on this topic, I get an overwhelming amount of thread results...if you've got specific stickies and links I'd sure appreciate it!)
Here's my question though...say we do this mod, (which sounds great btw) and up the oil viscosity used, will this void the OEM or additional warranty on the car? While I have confidence I could do this mod easily and correctly, I would still rather it age out gracefully and the OEMs rebuild it, than for me to pay ~6k in parts to rebuild it myself!
after reading all the pages of this post!As a brand new owner of an '06 w/34k miles, this thread scares the hell outta me!
Especially since I have no clue of it's oil usage history, but a big 5w-20 written in feminine cursive on the manual cover. Now I'm itchin' to do a compression check! (Oh and when I do a search for more on this topic, I get an overwhelming amount of thread results...if you've got specific stickies and links I'd sure appreciate it!)Here's my question though...say we do this mod, (which sounds great btw) and up the oil viscosity used, will this void the OEM or additional warranty on the car? While I have confidence I could do this mod easily and correctly, I would still rather it age out gracefully and the OEMs rebuild it, than for me to pay ~6k in parts to rebuild it myself!
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...03#post3411503
02-01-2010, 07:50 PM
#127
RX-8 Believer
I started another thread in an attempt to summarize the bizillion posts on the subject of increasing engine life, while showing some concern for the warranty issue.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...03#post3411503
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...03#post3411503
02-02-2010, 08:32 AM
#128
Ayrton Senna Forever
02-03-2010, 07:00 PM
#129
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These are my unscientific numbers:
RE-medy Kit from Mazmart:
10w40 Dyno before and after with the pressures checked just before and after the install of the kit. Autometer Electronic oil pressure gauge. Engine temps around 185º +/- 5º
Before Install:
750 RPM =25 lbs (Idle)
3000 RPM = 50 lbs
4000 RPM = ?
5000 RPM = 74 lbs with 75 being max.
After Install:
750 RPM = 25 lbs (Idle)
3000 RPM = 78 lbs
4000 RPM =100
5000 RPM = 110 lbs +/- ? (pegged the gauge)
RE-medy Kit from Mazmart:
10w40 Dyno before and after with the pressures checked just before and after the install of the kit. Autometer Electronic oil pressure gauge. Engine temps around 185º +/- 5º
Before Install:
750 RPM =25 lbs (Idle)
3000 RPM = 50 lbs
4000 RPM = ?
5000 RPM = 74 lbs with 75 being max.
After Install:
750 RPM = 25 lbs (Idle)
3000 RPM = 78 lbs
4000 RPM =100
5000 RPM = 110 lbs +/- ? (pegged the gauge)
02-04-2010, 10:38 AM
#130
These are my unscientific numbers:
RE-medy Kit from Mazmart:
10w40 Dyno before and after with the pressures checked just before and after the install of the kit. Autometer Electronic oil pressure gauge. Engine temps around 185º +/- 5º
Before Install:
750 RPM =25 lbs (Idle)
3000 RPM = 50 lbs
4000 RPM = ?
5000 RPM = 74 lbs with 75 being max.
After Install:
750 RPM = 25 lbs (Idle)
3000 RPM = 78 lbs
4000 RPM =100
5000 RPM = 110 lbs +/- ? (pegged the gauge)
RE-medy Kit from Mazmart:
10w40 Dyno before and after with the pressures checked just before and after the install of the kit. Autometer Electronic oil pressure gauge. Engine temps around 185º +/- 5º
Before Install:
750 RPM =25 lbs (Idle)
3000 RPM = 50 lbs
4000 RPM = ?
5000 RPM = 74 lbs with 75 being max.
After Install:
750 RPM = 25 lbs (Idle)
3000 RPM = 78 lbs
4000 RPM =100
5000 RPM = 110 lbs +/- ? (pegged the gauge)
Last edited by HiFlite999; 02-04-2010 at 10:57 AM.
02-05-2010, 08:41 AM
#132
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Considering the somewhat ease of installing this mod, why do you think Mazda would not have something like this to put on the series 1 cars to help with oil concerns? Emissions concerns?
02-05-2010, 08:48 AM
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Paul.
02-08-2010, 05:30 PM
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I mentioned this problem to a local shop that works a lot of with Rx-7s. They showed me a few cars with these mods, and they told me they have zero problems with bearing wear;
http://www.turblown.net/store/index.php?categoryID=14
loop line mod and the coated bearings
http://www.turblown.net/store/index.php?categoryID=14
loop line mod and the coated bearings
02-08-2010, 06:20 PM
#135
I mentioned this problem to a local shop that works a lot of with Rx-7s. They showed me a few cars with these mods, and they told me they have zero problems with bearing wear;
http://www.turblown.net/store/index.php?categoryID=14
loop line mod and the coated bearings
http://www.turblown.net/store/index.php?categoryID=14
loop line mod and the coated bearings
Paul.
02-08-2010, 10:36 PM
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Coating Info
I once watched an older dodge hemi run a low 9 quarter mile with the gold coatings on its headers. When the driver got back to the pit, I asked him about the coatings. He told me to see how long I could hold my hand on the bare exhaust piping. Of course I was very hesitant, but they felt equal to ambient temp less than two minutes after a run... Needless to say they are pretty effective.
I once watched an older dodge hemi run a low 9 quarter mile with the gold coatings on its headers. When the driver got back to the pit, I asked him about the coatings. He told me to see how long I could hold my hand on the bare exhaust piping. Of course I was very hesitant, but they felt equal to ambient temp less than two minutes after a run... Needless to say they are pretty effective.
02-09-2010, 10:17 AM
#144
We've used an oil loop line like that (Front and rear stationaries getting fed without passing through the dowels) but for yet another different reason. Some here may know why 
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Paul.
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02-11-2010, 08:22 PM
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A few of our group got together yesterday for a "tuner" day. We installed 2 of the modified oil bypass kits on members cars and had some surprising findings. It was very interesting.
Ok some of the findings that we saw are:
1- Guess how much oil is left in the pan after it has been drained until it stops dripping?. The car is up level on jack stands , dealerships etc would also have it level if they change your oil.
Would you believe 1LITER of oil oil is left behind in the pan.
Ok some of the findings that we saw are:
1- Guess how much oil is left in the pan after it has been drained until it stops dripping?. The car is up level on jack stands , dealerships etc would also have it level if they change your oil.
Would you believe 1LITER of oil oil is left behind in the pan.
My driveway is about 25 degrees incline up to the garage, I put my car ramps where the driveway "ramp" meets the flat of the garage; I get lots of oil out.
02-12-2010, 05:56 PM
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This is what I want. It's a syphon that hooks up to your air pump. Just stick a plastic tube down your dip sticks tube until it hits the bottom of your oil pan an pump for about 15 min. It will drain that puppy dry without jacking up your car, taking off a drain plug or tilting your car on it's side to get as much out as possible. Saw it at a friends house last weekend.
02-12-2010, 06:07 PM
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I have a mityvac, and loved it for my past cars. Mine was a hand pump one, unlike the picture which uses compressed air. The dipstick tube on my 2004 is too small for the tubes that came with my mity to go down. (I think they have bigger dipstick tubes on later cars though.)
I also have the attachment to suck brake fluid out, which also worked great on past cars. With this car I have to step on the brake, making it a two person operations. Don't know why that is.
I also have the attachment to suck brake fluid out, which also worked great on past cars. With this car I have to step on the brake, making it a two person operations. Don't know why that is.
02-12-2010, 11:29 PM
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I have a mityvac, and loved it for my past cars. Mine was a hand pump one, unlike the picture which uses compressed air. The dipstick tube on my 2004 is too small for the tubes that came with my mity to go down. (I think they have bigger dipstick tubes on later cars though.)
I also have the attachment to suck brake fluid out, which also worked great on past cars. With this car I have to step on the brake, making it a two person operations. Don't know why that is.
I also have the attachment to suck brake fluid out, which also worked great on past cars. With this car I have to step on the brake, making it a two person operations. Don't know why that is.