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Old 05-08-2007 | 07:00 PM
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my car is dead

many of you have helped me in past threads
my car has not been working right

i had the dealer replace the cat, spark plugs, tranny flush, coils, gas cap


they called today and say the engine is bad

i have 68k miles so im out of warrany

what can i do ??
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:06 PM
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Sorry to hear that.

Funny thing is that I'm just about to do a search and I see this post. Well same thing here, my car wasn't working right too so I took the car to the dealership yesterday, and today they called me I need a new engine. Well it's still under warranty but they will be calling me again tomorrow to confirm after they talk to Mazda. Will see how it goes.
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:18 PM
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I would contact Paul over at Mazmart. I know he's got some GREAT deals on some upgraded rebuilts.
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:26 PM
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upgraded rebuilds???
how much is our motor STOCK


i may just get a different car
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:35 PM
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the dealer wants 6k to fix it
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:55 PM
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6k to fix it!!!

Wowsa....yeah, umm about that!

WTF? Out of warranty, and the engine goes. Man I would bitch. I truly hope, I pray that this does not happen to me. It would be the last Mazda I buy if it were me.

But, all the best and hopefully this gets fixed.

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Old 05-08-2007 | 08:20 PM
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Push it at the dealer...I have heard that the warranty has been honored further out than that.....

It's not like it went from OK...to dead in one mile.....
Old 05-08-2007 | 08:29 PM
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Did you get the engine integrity check recall done (4206F, see below)? Did you ever report/log low power or driveability complaints prior to the warranty being up?

They knew engines were going bad. Definitely push your case!!!


http://www.finishlineperformance.com...res_recall.pdf

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Old 05-08-2007 | 08:48 PM
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When did it first act up? I have seen Mazda pay for the engine and you pay the labor when its off the 60K warranty.
Old 05-08-2007 | 08:54 PM
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If you've been having issues before 60,000 miles then I would pitch a bitch. If this is a problem that started before 60,000 miles then they should warranty it period.
As was said before, they don't just fail instantly.

Push your case!
Old 05-08-2007 | 09:02 PM
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Especially seeing as these Rotaries are failing in numbers, both in and out of warranty. Not many have seen over 100,000 miles, and there is no indication when a motor will fail.

I'd say Mazda is approaching a class-action if they do not start honoring these Rotaries for more than the stated warranty.

I know motors can fail, and abuse may play a part, but when was the last time you heard a 4cyl. or 6cyl. engine fail, in these numbers, by ANY manufacturer, in the time period we see these motors failing??

G/L,

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Old 05-08-2007 | 10:11 PM
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Man, you guys are scaring me! I know that our engines have issues, but damn, I expect alot of miles on mine. What about all the stories about rotaries lasting past 250-300k miles before needing new apex seals? Are those days gone?
Old 05-08-2007 | 10:16 PM
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Man, you guys are scaring me! I know that our engines have issues, but damn, I expect alot of miles on mine. What about all the stories about rotaries lasting past 250-300k miles before needing new apex seals? Are those days gone?
Those days are not gone at all, but there will always be isolated incidents or 'bad apples'.

Mike: keep pressing the issue with Tustin Mazda. Use the recall as firepower...you might still get this covered.
Old 05-08-2007 | 10:48 PM
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im gonna try guys
Old 05-09-2007 | 01:40 AM
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Unhappy Dealerships are sketchy

I just got my 8 in december and I'm already experiencing a small lack in power and response at 10k miles, it's almost like the engine struggles to get up to 5k RPMs, and when it does, it feels like it used to at 3k RPMs. Should I start a paper trail with the dealership? I've also been noticing a squeeky metal on metal noise right after the clutch engages and I accelerate. I told the dealership this at the oil change 2 weeks ago and they said they didn't hear anything, and that "rotaries do have a whine..." which is total crap because I drove an '04 rx8 to 45k miles and never heard a squeak like this, its almost like a dry metal on metal sound. I don't think I trust the dealership on any level right now... not after reading some of these posts...
Old 05-09-2007 | 02:10 AM
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Mike, wow, this is terrible to hear. I've been following your thread as something similiar happened to my 8. I was still under warranty, though, and got my 8 back last week from the dealer. He replaced the engine and so I didn't pay a dime.

Mazda has to be held accountable - have you tried contacting Mazda Corporate? Tell them there's an entire forum of angry 8 owners if they don't help you out.
Old 05-09-2007 | 03:50 AM
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whats the best number to call???
i was thinking to take the car to mazdatrix for a second look
or putting a rx7 motor in

i dont know
Old 05-09-2007 | 09:59 AM
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dam people I don't have an eight yet but I got rid of three of my second gen's so i can get an 8 and i keep hearing about all these engine failures! All three of my engines had 150,000+ and I rebuilt one of them! Are people not taking the right precautions during the break- in period or maintnence!
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Pedro: keep in mind that Mike's car is an early 04 automatic. Most of the newer 8's are not having as many problems.

Mike: putting in an rx-7 engine would probably cost you way more then paying for a rebuilt engine. Did you contact paul over at Mazmart? Give him a heads up that you MIGHT be in the market for an engine if Mazda doesn't come through
Old 05-09-2007 | 11:00 AM
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here you go buddy:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/323389421.html
Old 05-09-2007 | 11:18 AM
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you guys do realize the car has only been on the market since 2003, simply too short of a time to have many 100k+ mile engines on the road yet right?

I really love the doom-and-gloom talk about the Renesis on here, engineering-wise it's pretty much superior to the last NA 13B in every single way, so I'd expect most properly driven Renesis engines to easily go over 100k in a few more years.
Old 05-09-2007 | 11:57 AM
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my car was newer misused

Jedi--thanks
i have contacted paul
Old 05-09-2007 | 06:24 PM
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Now that's what I am talking about!! Sorry MikeB about your issues. Mine is at the dealer right now for pretty much the same issues. I don't drive like a granny but I have never abused my car. The service manager noticed the mazport cooling mod and RB intake and said that I may be SOL because all that "changed the parameters of the car". Funny thing is that I taken my car to other dealers and asked them to see why my car was having these issues and the normal response was bad gas!! Atleast I have a paper trail that started 15k miles ago!!
Old 05-09-2007 | 07:29 PM
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UPDATE:

my car is being fixed under warranty

it will take 3-5 days to get the engine
Old 05-09-2007 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeb
UPDATE:

my car is being fixed under warranty

it will take 3-5 days to get the engine
awesome! great to hear Mike!


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