two rotors

In short,I do not know CCA.Canadian cars come with battery whose part no is KJ01-18-520A.The very few replaced by a local part,0000-18-024F.Basically a North American made 24F battery.This the same size battery as in 2nd and 3rd gen RX-7s.

We use N3Y3-18-S30 plug set,which include RE7C-L,leading plugs.You may remember that the original leading plug was RE7A-L.

Gomez

We get the same plugs here. Factory fitted from the end of December 04.

Nubo

The re-wind idea seems to be where the 9v-starter theory is coming from. One way to get more output from a DC motor is to shorten the windings. A shorter length of wire reduces resistance and allows the windings to draw more current, but at a penalty of much more heat. It was common practice in electric slot-car racing. Sort of like putting a 3-cell flashlight bulb in a 4-cell flashlight. Lots more light -- for a limited time only

maztech

the new TSB just came out a couple of weeks ago, as usual, it goes by your vin #, but if you have an 04 you will probably qualify, it is for the starter, battery, and the "leading" plugs, again, only if your vin is within range though, just did one about an hour ago

truemagellen

please post copy of newer version of the TSB thanks

Nemesis8

iTrader: (3)

What do the plugs look like, and do you have a part number for them?

zoom44

i posted the update here https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=67575 nothign changed from the previous version except some of the warranty info

L8APEX

I just had this done to mine today. I got the new battery, starter and plugs. This has finally fixed my problem. Now we will see what happens when it is cold outside in the a.m. I got no static from the service people this time, about what I wanted done, or the mods done to my car. A former dealership tried to blame every problem I had on my RB parts. They just listened to what I told them, and did it. Two other guys in our local club have had it done in the last two weeks too, at the same dealership. The same dealership that 3 months ago told me there was no such starter for the car, and told me that I was crazy thinking my car was not starting well.

All I know, is I am a happy camper now.

Nemesis8

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I'm calling my dealer and get this done. You guys have convinced me enough. Thanks for the info

msrecant

Yeah, those RB front sway bars caused a lot of cars to flood ...

Some dealerships are just jerks.

L8APEX

you laugh, I have heard crazier stories, the one guy whose dealer told him that his intake was causing grinding in his gearbox.

I had my plugs replaced about 10k miles ago, and they were trying to blame my intake for the hard starts, stating the car was not getting enough air. Then they realized that my spark plugs were switched from the factory, trailing in leading, leading in trailing. I asked them if my exhaust was responsible for that. Needless to say, I have not been back there.

Butch Brown

I just had my starter battery and plugs replaced today. I told the dealer how my battery goes dead when the car sits for more than two weeks and they did the recall work. I started it twice today and it cranks much faster. It starts with 1 second of cranking rather than 3 seconds of cranking before service. That difference is not due to the plugs being replaced because they just replaced the plugs when I complained about it running rough and smoking only 600 miles before this service, I was shocked to see the plugs were replaced again.

dgcls

can someone post the vin#'s within the bulleting range? i've been experiencing this problem also.

msrecant

Here is the actual bulletin. https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=67575

Rotary Rasp

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So if my car starts fine, what should I tell the deal to get this work done?

Nemesis8

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Tell him you went skiing in the mountains, and in the morning the car would hardly turn over, and you thought the battery was going to fail

Rotary Rasp

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My dealer would laugh at me and tell me that this car isn't made for the mountians. We'll see.... did I mention I really hate my dealer.

fray

iTrader: (1)

Just tell 'em you went to Tahoe.. If you can't take your car to a ski place in the same state tell your dealer to get F''ed..

RX8-Raider

My local dealership service (who Ive had numerous prior issues with) seems to refuse to acknowledge this Service Bulletin. I just got my car back after my car flooded for the second time. It took them almost 4 days to replace spark plugs and supposedly do the recall on fuel tank and arm ball join thing. I specifically mentioned this service bulletin that required my car to have the battery, spark plugs, and starter replaced. My car was built in June 03'...... I know it falls under the necessary requirements for this service.... I get the labor and parts invoice and all they had done was change spark plugs.... needless to say Im on the phone with them and have printed this out to bring to them if necessary....

lefty63

Last Friday I took mine in for an oil change and complained about it turning over very slow they replaced my battrey 640cca and ordered me the new starter and plugs. They called it a cold weather start up TSB.

RX8-Raider

Just called my next closest Mazda dealership (an hour away...ugh) and they are going to FINISH the job that should have been done to start with. They wondered why my local service dept. would not have done the job since its covered under warranty.... I was befuddeled as well. Called Mazda Noth America and they have filed and tagged the issue with the local dealership.

xixnakaxix

Do you think that the mazda dealerships in Germany will replace the items? Also if I am not experiencing any problems (other than the 3-5 second turnover before starting and rough idle) will they do it anyways?

RX8_GT

Xixnakaxix:

If starting takes 3 to 5 seconds, you should have the upgrades --- period. No modern car should take any degree of cranking to start.

RX-Nut

i'm having the same problem.. real intermittent, sometimes it plain just doesnt crank.. gets me worried because after each attempt you can tell the battery isnt liking is, at the cranks get slower..... i usually wait a min or two, then she starts.. spooky though.. no 30K car should make you sweat like that lol..

brought her in today, hopefully the techs find the updated TSB and replace the starter if that is in fact my problem...

<cross fingers>

Rotary Rasp

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Told my dealer what fray told me to and they replaced the battery, starter and plugs. They even gave me a loaner for the 2 hours they had my car. It starts really fast now. Sounds like a motorcycle starter.