you need a scanner like hymee's to read the flash level

 

How much is the HYMEE ?

 

http://www.mazdaparts.com/ProductDet...000-1151625265

279.95

 

What are these trims and what does the room fuse do? I tried to search for it but nothing came up.

 

Fuel trims....
read this to give you an better idea:
http://racingbeat.com/PCM.htm

 

one would think this amounts to a public confession of sorts.
olddragger

 

Not if they don't actually make it public. IIRC, the good folks at Rosenthal have had to put up with plenty of crap from Mazda for posting these TSBs in the first place. They don't really want them to be public knowledge, and we still make up a very small percentage of 8 owners.

 

^^ Could be thought of that way, and to add to this, the changes in the '09 engine to verify the MOP problems over the years.

 

Thanks!

 

Got the updated flash under powertrain today. No difference thus far.

EDIT: Startup when cold seems smoother.

 

The local dealer here said I wasn't covered under the extended powertrain warranty (57xxx mi)... but they did the flash at no charge. Felt a bit better in the mid/high range, but it always does after a reset.

 

All 04s should still be under powertrain unless they're over 60k miles. When I initially asked when the flash came out I was told that I'd have to pay the labor, but the service manager and I get along so I just called and had it scheduled when he was there. I'd understand if they didn't want to do the other two TSBs under powertrain, but I don't see any reason why they can't update the software. It's 0.3 hours and helps ensure that they won't need to do an engine replacement heh.

 

Yeah, I meant to say that he wasn't going to cover this TSB under the extended PT warranty. He said it was only for mechanical engine and trans issues.

 

Anything emissions related should be covered 8/80 by Fed law. I would think the cat and or a re-flash would fall under emissions.

 

I'm out of warranty too, mine was handled as a recall.

 

you are correct

 

Good point. Luckily, I didn't have to push the issue. The service manager was probably being a salesman so I'd come back in the future.

 

The service manager at Wayne also believes that compression of 7.9 @ 320RPM is just dandy... Is it so hard to read the FSM?

As for Mazda, they only need your engine to last for 60k miles then bon voyage...

 

so how often should the engine cleaner be done?

 

Of course u can do it as often as you want, u will just throw all the money down the hole.

Do it only if u have problem, or maybe every 20-30 K miles. I know I will do it to mine every 20-30 K miles.

 

Just plan on changing your oil immediately afterwards.
I'd suggest using your idle vacuum as a gauge.
If you do the procedure and your vacuum immediately goes up, you are done.
If it doesn't, do it a second time.
If it still doesn't go up, your compression issues aren't carbon-related.

 

Interesting - I assume this is fine if your car has less than 60,000 miles, as it is an engine issue. I prefer it done what it is really hot outside, so this summer is my last chance. I just have to get a real battery before that - the lousy one I got out of one of the numerous TSBs will die for sure after the first rotor procedure
My catalyst was changed once a year since the car was new anyway, so this procedure would not make it much worse than that I think. But if you care about your catalyst, do not do this cleaning too often.

PS How will the engine start after the 1 hour soaking when the whole oil film is washed away and the spark plugs are soaked wet? If you do it yourself, I suggest to remove the spark plugs and drain most of the dirty cleaner after the 1 hour soaking - dry and reinstall the plugs, then try to start the car (be prepared to jump started with another vehicle, just in case).

 

I'm assuming the cleaner is supposed to pull the carbon deposits away from the metal, and carry them away when it is blown out the exhaust as you start the engine. Letting it dry would likely defeat the purpose...

 

Im gonna buy a can and do it myself as soon as its out (waiting for tommy to sell them)

Lets just hope that it does not cost too much.

 

I had this done on my Jeep Liberty a few years ago. It definitely cleans house!