You can always get an AccessPORT and save the RB flash to the unit and then do whatever.

 

Am I covered by this TSB if I am off warranty? I do notice some miniscule loss of power in warmer weather.

 

Well, AccessPORT is not out yet is it ?

ALMOST ALL RX-8 are covered, its just that "do u have to pay for it or not"

If u're still in bumper to bumper warranty then just go in , tell them u had powerloss issue last summer, and tell them to do MSP16.

if u're out, no biggie, 2 hours of labor should be more than enough to do the flash and cleaning. (Plus the part, 20 dollar cleaner ?)

 

I just don't have the equipment to do the flash. I have no freaking clue how to do it in fact.

 

why dont u just bring it into Mazda dealer?

yeah u race I know, who cares? if u dont have any warranty left (or voided), just pay them labor and that 20 maybe 30 dollar can of cleaner. big deal

 

Are you kidding me? I've been selling them since February!

https://www.rx8club.com/mazdamaniac-183/cobb-accessport-discussion-140117/

 

You can use the accessport to simply store the map that you had on your vehicle? Without loading the AP map into the PCM?

 

god damn it, my bad, I always forgot to read that thread

700 bux ... jesus, if I knew this earlier I would of bought this first instead of the Autoexe under brace ...

hmm, **** so much money to spend ... I will get it as soon as I have the cash

 

No, you load an AP map when you store the map that is on the AP.
But you can load the most current OE map. It comes with the AP.

 

tard!!!!

stop hating, start reading!!!!!!

beers

 

 

its been a week and I'm still feeling the power... should it take this long? It could be that my 8's flash was out of date in the first place so it's just playing catch up.
Never the less it feels like a whole new car now.

 

becuz they cleaned ur engine.

 

Got my flash done. Ive noticed slight changes.. for one my car starts up right away! yeah! also the gas smell is gone for the most part..

 

The local Mazda dealer's a ****. Last time I was gonna pay him for a stupid spark plug swap, they tried charging me $300. WTF? I did it myself for 80 bux. They were saying the plugs themselves cost $120 total too.

 

Think of this, I got a Brand new Exedy Clutch, Pressure Plate, Clutch Alignment tool, Throwout bearing and a packet of grease for 170 bux on Ebay, Mazda sells the same thing for over 400. Its the same clutch but with Mazda's name cost more than double.

Thats how Mazda make money.

they want to charge you 120 bux for plugs, thats pretty typical, but 180 bux for labor? Get the fuxk outa here, I dont even need to take my wheel off and I can swap all 4 plug in less than an hour.

Its like that, thats probably why dealership hates me.

Or You can get MM's AccessPORT and load the newest map yourself. Yes Its expensive, but AccessPORT itself is worth the price.

 

Its raining all day here, but further driving seems to support a general increase in smoothness (attribute that to carbon removal), but no serious umphh. Maybe a slight increase in the intesity of port actuations, but nothing that is major. Since mine got new plugs along with the decarb and flash, I really can't say what helped more.

 

Well im a new 04 rx8 owner that i bought a couple days ago from a ford dealership, they did not have the equip or know how on the flash msp16, so i came home from another state with the car and called my local mazda dealer and have an appt for tomorrow morn at 10:30am for them to apply the msp16 to my car at no charge as the car is still under warranty till 8-27-08.
The car only has 19k orig miles on it and is in near mint condition.
I did goto carfacts when i furst gotit and it had 16 entries but they wanted 24.95 for the detail of those entries so i said i will wait and ask the dealer when i take it to them, so i called this morn and set up the appt for the reflash and he asked for the vin to make sure it was one of the ones that would need the flash of msp16, and of course it is, so while i had him on the phone while my car info was on his pc screen i asked him about the 16 entries i seen on carfax and he said it was towed 2x,s for flooding in late 04 and some other minor issues.
I want to get a more detailed printout when i take it in tomorrow and he will do it for me hehe.
Anyway as i said im new to rotaries so i honestly dunno if my car is ruuning as it should or not, it idles arond 700rpm and is maybe a little rough on the idle, it seems to start ok from a cold start also.
Also it is a little sluggesh from s dead start even with near full throttle up and until the rpm,s reach 4k and then it literally just about throws you way into the seat and yur immediatly doing 90mph lol.
As i said i dunno whats normal or not but i just love the way it drives.
I will reply back here to this thread with my results if any or no differences after the flash of my car when i get back.

Is there any special things i should say to them or ask for while its still under warranty?

 

^ bad dealership, bad! How could a Ford dealer tell you they couldn't check? BS.

Anyway, check the Rosenthal site (finishlineperformance.com) and download the recalls. Make sure those have been done. I think it's 3 for the 04 8, but I'm not 100% sure on that since I have an 05. They should be listed on the carfax, and your dealer can tell you either way, so it's not too big a deal. If there's a recall (note: not tsb, but recall) that was not done you should report the ford place you bought it from. There's no excuse for that, as ford has access to all the info anyway.

The power is all in the 6-9k range, so that sounds normal.

 

If its 04 and never did any recalls, there should be 3.

Anyway, as soon as the OP gets to the dealership, tell them to do MSP16, and most important is the Engine no start TSB, which should give u a new faster spinning starter (about 300rpm+/-) and a new battery.

MSP16 will cover the 4206f recall flash, so just MSP16 will be fine.

Take some time and read all TSB. most of the applies to 04.

 

Kewl thanks guys,,, so you say they should be giving me a new starter and new battery?

 

TSBs are not necessarily free. They are covered on vehicles that have complaints about the particular issue for that TSB. ie - if you have the problem they should cover it. Recalls by law should have been checked and completed before the dealer sold you the car.

 

got this done today. it feels smoother, but i'll let you know in the coming few days. i havent driven it enough to really guage a difference. my dealer treated this as a recall and gave me no hassle.

EDIT: 2005 6MT. 10k miles (its a baby) the last flash was the emission recall flash.

 

What year is your car and what was your previous flash?

 

Yes sir.

Tell them *it took years b4 my car can start, starter seems to be slow, or maybe weak battery?*

The above trick will work ONLY if they never did the TSB b4