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Old 10-26-2018 | 08:28 AM
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Non ethylene glycol coolant?

advance auto only carries ethylene glycol based coolants. Is there a store that should have it in stock or do i have to special order it? Ma$da dealer$hip is out of the question.

I saw the NY guy on here say even fl22 has some ethelyn glycol. Is there an alternative to mazda coolant? like prestone extended life or something?

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Old 10-26-2018 | 09:08 AM
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Looks like Amazon carries FL22:
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Old 10-26-2018 | 11:21 AM
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Why do you want to avoid ethylene glycol?
Old 10-26-2018 | 11:55 AM
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Are you thinking of 2-EHA? That's a completely different chemical.
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Old 10-26-2018 | 12:15 PM
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You can get PEAK Global formula if you are unable to source Mazda FL-22 pre-diluted (or Ford Motorcraft VC-10-A2 concentrate), it is available at most auto parts stores. The big concern is the presence of 2-EHA as UnknownJinX pointed out.
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Old 10-26-2018 | 12:20 PM
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Now that we know how AF can ruin coolant seals, why would anyone put anything but FL22 in car.

You can nearly mix any kind of engine oil, but wrong coolant is very bad.
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Old 10-26-2018 | 12:24 PM
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Some race tracks and sanctioning bodies ban ethylene glycol so there is a certain case where avoiding it is reasonable. In that case you'd just run DI water with a corrosion inhibitor or something crazy like Evans NPG Waterless.

But if this is a street driven car, just pay for the FL22. Should be $20-30 a gallon and you'll need 2-3 gallons. It's not that expensive when you realize that you don't have to change the coolant very often.
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Old 10-26-2018 | 02:50 PM
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Yeah, the track safety is a reason.

I bought new 73 RX3, and water seals went out by 75k miles, and they gave a new engine for approx $175. installation cost.

I drove it pretty hard, and 110 mph on open hwy a lot.

Not sure any AF back then was safe for seals, but now we know FL22 is the one.
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Old 10-26-2018 | 10:15 PM
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https://costeffective.com.au/product...tem-treatment/

http://liquidintelligence.com.au/pro...-green-coolant

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Old 10-26-2018 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NotAPreppie
Why do you want to avoid ethylene glycol?
thought it was 2-EHA...

Old 10-26-2018 | 11:41 PM
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USD $499.00 5Liters :O
Old 10-28-2018 | 03:17 AM
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USD $499.00 5Liters :O
You don't use that stuff straight. It should be diluted to 1 part cooling system treatment and 80 parts water. You only need about 125 mL with 10 L coolant capacity.

I mentioned this idea elsewhere: I know Honda excludes 2-EHA from their coolant. Maybe Honda coolant is cheaper? Just a thought.
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Old 10-28-2018 | 03:52 AM
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this is also a concentrate. need to be mixed.

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Old 10-28-2018 | 12:57 PM
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Old 10-28-2018 | 01:28 PM
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