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Old 06-04-2011 | 02:15 AM
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OEM Hid Xenons to OEM Halogen

Hey, i have looked around the forum and i have noticed alot of people going from Halogen to HId. However, i do have stock Xenons. I want to swap those out with the Halogens. Can i just swap out the Xenon headlight unit to the halogen unit. What wiring changes will have to be made. Could just leave the auto-leveling unused since the Halogens are not made for it? will that cause problems?
Old 06-04-2011 | 12:22 PM
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Bump, has anyone done this
Old 06-04-2011 | 03:07 PM
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I'm just curious why you want to do this?
Old 06-05-2011 | 12:40 AM
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I like the Halogen/HID KIT combo better than the stock HID lights.
Old 06-05-2011 | 12:59 AM
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Wait so you want to run an aftermarket HID setup?

Just run different bulbs man, They're "D2S" bulb type.

http://store.sharphid.com/product_p/hidbp.htm

Anyway, to convert to regular halogen lights. No. You need different headlights, and you're height sensor light will likely illuminate.
Old 06-05-2011 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Zendos
I like the Halogen/HID KIT combo better than the stock HID lights.
halogen and HID are two different types of bulbs
Old 06-05-2011 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Zendos
I like the Halogen/HID KIT combo better than the stock HID lights.
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Old 06-05-2011 | 03:10 AM
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Old 06-05-2011 | 11:53 PM
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I know that halogen and HID are different bulbs. I want to run the Stock Mazda RX8 Halogen Headlamp assembly with an Aftermarket HID kit. Right now, i have NO headlights on my car, it had an accident. 2 reasons why i want to do this: it is cheaper, and i would be able to get 10k temp. (i know legal issues already). All i am asking is if there would be a problems switching from my OEM HID System to the OEM Halogen system.
Old 06-06-2011 | 12:08 AM
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I had a buddy that switched his NON HIDs to HID assemblies. It all fit together. I think he needed a short wiring harness but that was it. He didn't have the auto leveling but it all worked.

So yes, you should be able to buy some NON HIDs housings to fit yours.
Old 06-06-2011 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jrx13
I had a buddy that switched his NON HIDs to HID assemblies. It all fit together. I think he needed a short wiring harness but that was it. He didn't have the auto leveling but it all worked.

So yes, you should be able to buy some NON HIDs housings to fit yours.

thanks, i know it'd fit right, i was just thinking about the wiring. thanks for the reply.
Old 06-06-2011 | 01:17 PM
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another question, i would have to buy the wiring harness that fits the halogen right, since i have connectors that go into the HID ballast which i will not need anymore. right?
Old 06-06-2011 | 01:33 PM
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This thread is making less sense as it goes on. Yes you will need a different wiring harness for the non HID bulb type, that is what jrx13 meant by "short wiring harness"

Exactly how much money do you intend on saving by doing this? And where do you live so I can tell the neighbors to stay the hell off the streets of where you drive, because HID in a halogen projector + 10k color temp = can't see s*it at night
Old 06-06-2011 | 06:13 PM
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I checked the wiring diagrams. It looks like the ground wire for the high beams are what is the only difference. You may be able to use the existing stuff already and just rewire the ground since your going to run aftermarket HIDs anyway.
Old 06-06-2011 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
This thread is making less sense as it goes on. Yes you will need a different wiring harness for the non HID bulb type, that is what jrx13 meant by "short wiring harness"

Exactly how much money do you intend on saving by doing this? And where do you live so I can tell the neighbors to stay the hell off the streets of where you drive, because HID in a halogen projector + 10k color temp = can't see s*it at night
Thanks for the info. Im sorry about the confusion, I don't speak English very well. Thanks for working with me.
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Originally Posted by jrx13
I had a buddy that switched his NON HIDs to HID assemblies. It all fit together. I think he needed a short wiring harness but that was it. He didn't have the auto leveling but it all worked.

So yes, you should be able to buy some NON HIDs housings to fit yours.
I know I'm revivng an old thread, but I can't find the answer anywhere.
I have Non-halogen headlights that are junk, so I boUght HID housings. Looks like I can use the existing wiring for every bulb except the headlight. How can I wire that up?

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Old 02-08-2017 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PROJEKT13
I know I'm revivng an old thread, but I can't find the answer anywhere.
I have Non-halogen headlights that are junk, so I boUght HID housings. Looks like I can use the existing wiring for every bulb except the headlight. How can I wire that up?
Get an aftermarket D2S HID upgrade kit with ballast and relay harness?
Old 02-09-2017 | 07:24 AM
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You can't just run 12V to the HID bulbs. They have to run through the ignitor/ballast to ignite the lamps (tens of thousands of volts) and then keep them running (80-100 volts).

I don't think this is included in the housing. You should be able to connect the existing 12V headlamp service to the ballast and then the ballast to the bulb.
Old 02-09-2017 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NotAPreppie
You can't just run 12V to the HID bulbs. They have to run through the ignitor/ballast to ignite the lamps (tens of thousands of volts) and then keep them running (80-100 volts).

I don't think this is included in the housing. You should be able to connect the existing 12V headlamp service to the ballast and then the ballast to the bulb.
I strongly recommend to use a relay switch on the 12V line. You can buy a kit and the better kits come with the relay harness.
Old 05-04-2017 | 12:41 AM
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My rx8 came with halogens from the factory. and i found a deal on some factory hid headlights with the ballast. could someone help me on how to wire the factory halogen harness to the hid plug. my harness has what looks like a 12v and a ground. and the plug for the hid ballast has quite a few wires pinned in the plug. im assuming that most of them are for the leveling system that my car does not have. any help would be really appreciated. this is my first post and i did search and not find anything so try and take it easy on me.
Old 08-27-2017 | 02:35 PM
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I actually want to swap my HID housings for Halogen too and am just wondering if that will cause an auto leveling warning light.

The reasons for swapping:
-Current housings are getting yellow even with regular polishing.
-New halogen housings are half the price.
-Upgrading to LED bulbs (VLEDS new Micro bulbs are bright enough to be an upgrade and small enough to fit in sealed housings... and currently available in H7, but not D2S)

So my question about the warning light: Is it just caused by the sensors at the wheels or would it get thrown if that connection is not plugged in at the housing itself?
Old 03-06-2018 | 12:45 AM
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Hi all,

First post and I'm no stranger to forums so I did a search regarding a situation I have.

I'm in the weird spot where I am contemplating bolting on some OEM HALOGEN headlights (the complete unit) in place of my OEM XENON HID headlights.

I ask because it's a legal requirement to have the headlight washer working if you have HID headlights in Australia. (I deleted them as I'm running a Mazdaspeed front bumper).

We have annual inspections and I wasn't running the Mazdaspeed kit yet and saw the mechanic tick off the headlight washer as a part of road worthiness. I just don't want it to be another thing I fail for. (Despite always passing with a straight through cat-less exhaust...) Australian laws are backwards and **** for anybody with anything remotely modified on their car.

I was wondering if the units are replaceable with each other assuming I have a pair of both (I will just plug the HIDs back in once my inspection is over with), e.g. are the connectors etc. the same in the back and will they directly bolt on? If not I might have to install my headlight washer...

I read the above but am not looking to put an HID kit or anything like that, so I'm wondering if the wiring harness is still necessary? Just wondering if it will work if I literally bolt on the Halogen unit.

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Old 03-06-2018 | 01:59 PM
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It would be tricky.

HID and halogen works very differently and they have very different wiring. HID uses a ballast to ignite the initial strike(goes up to about 20kV), which halogen doesn't need.

Also, I don't think there is any halogen bulbs that can even fit in the D2S socket or use the same connector(which it can't, for the aforementioned reasons).

Might be easier just to go back to the stock front bumper and put the washers back on for the inspection.

ASH8 can probably shed some light.

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Old 03-06-2018 | 03:46 PM
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You can bolt in OEM Halogen assemblies, you just need to pull power from the stock wiring. How hard or easy that will be for you, depends on your wiring skills. I did the opposite and installed new OEM Koito halogen assemblies and I used a Morimoto HID kit in my factory Xenon equipped 2004. But back then new OEM Xenons were like $800.00 each. I lost the leveling function but I never noticed it anyway and I rarely drive at night anymore.

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