Oil Residue all around the oil pan??
03-15-2011, 10:13 PM
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It's fairly easy on a lift...but huge PIA if you are trying to do it on jack stands
There are three 10mm bolts holding it on....remove it...use a bit of vaseline or such like to hold the o-ring in the groove......
Be careful with the positioning switch..the darn thing is fragile....remove the wire harness connectors before you have a go at the bolts
There are three 10mm bolts holding it on....remove it...use a bit of vaseline or such like to hold the o-ring in the groove......
Be careful with the positioning switch..the darn thing is fragile....remove the wire harness connectors before you have a go at the bolts
03-16-2011, 08:23 PM
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04-26-2011, 02:40 PM
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in case anyone was wondering... my problem just turned out to be an oil pan gasket that was leaking. the fan from the radiator at idle just blew the oil everywhere and made a mess.
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09-07-2011, 03:50 PM
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Ok so here is the thread revival haha. I got some pictures below to show the oil residue and dirt. I am going to reseal the oil pan first but I have a feeling it is a seal somewhere around the pulleys. I'm not sure if this is going to affect the engine or not. I think it only happens when I'm at the track with high sustained RPMs.
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Looks very familiar. Replace the oil pan gasket and make sure you get a good seal. After that make sure you clean real well under there so you can see if the leak returns.
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Ok so here is the thread revival haha. I got some pictures below to show the oil residue and dirt. I am going to reseal the oil pan first but I have a feeling it is a seal somewhere around the pulleys. I'm not sure if this is going to affect the engine or not. I think it only happens when I'm at the track with high sustained RPMs.
I'm having the same issue, but have a different theory: Over-oiling. Yeah baby.
In Nov of '11, I had my car serviced and aligned at a well-known So Fla. mazda dealer.
After that, I noticed leakage from the engine bay on to my driveway. So, cleared out the garage, and started parking there so I could spot the leak.
The leak only came out after highway driving (lots of on-ramps over 6k rpm.) If it was just puttering around town, no leak.
I've been... not right at all for the past few months, so even my Rx-8 had to take a back seat when compared to other things. I've should've driven to the dealer and had them take care of it -- but why? They'd probably steam it out or worse. Not a fan of steam-cleaning engines that are running OK and still in the car. Seen it go wrong. And besides, I can imagine a dealer saying "Sorry mate, you need a new motor, yours is toast." I can't prove they'd say it, but i'd bet money on the probability of them trying to use this to con me (or anyone with similar symptoms) into a motor I didn't need. I'm sure that line of crock would get someone to take the bait and have it done. *
So, because of "things" it took me a while to look at this. About 1500 miles. I pull the dipstick, and the oil was over the F mark by quite a bit. Quite a big bit. They had put in at least an extra quart into my engine! I drained the excess, cleaned up the area (pretty much exactly what your pix showed in the post I'm replying to!) and have been monitoring like crazy for weeks now. No leaks, no fresh oil visible anywhere, no smell. And that's after sustained 10, 20 minutes at 5000, 6000 rpms (highway cruising in one gear lower than I should be in) spiced with the occasional run to the redline at WOT.
I've not told the dealer who did the oil change about it yet. I doubt my car will go there again. I will likely tell them so they know they have an incompetent quack or 10 working there.
So, to you guys with leaks / oil filth in the areas shown by the post I'm replying to - check your oil levels if you don't do them yourself. Mine has been overfilled a few times, but never this bad before. The areas your photos showed -- under the engine to the passenger (LHD) side -- that big plug at the bottom is the power steering motor I think -- then on to the bump at the front middle of the engine, etc -- although, I couldn't find any direct evidence of a front eccentric seal leak. I don't know where all this oil came from -- I really don't know.
I also suspect they've dusted my engine with some kind of oil absorbent material, a rather fine-grained one. Lots of residue by the oil filter side, where the "MAZDA 13B" logo and serial number are.
I hope these bastards haven't broken my engine. I have photos of the mess, video, and the quart of oil I took out. With this documentation I will confront the SM (not the SAs, those are useless even when they have a clue.)
Anything that could've gone bad from an overfill? OMP? Gaskets / seals? No more leaks, and she's running fine but since I'm not driving 60 miles a day like before, I don't know yet if my OMP is working right -- searching threads now to find a way to test OMP.
Total, it took me about eight hours of my own time to get this all cleaned up and I'm still not done. The power steering connector still needs work, a toothbrush should do. Most of it was done by hand with mr, clean multipurpose spray. There were spots so tight and recessed I resorted to a foot-long hemostat with a wad of bounty wet with mr. clean spray. Eats grease / oil. It's almost fully clean now.
Amazingly, speaking of eating, I found very little oil on any hoses, almost none. None whatsoever that I could see on any of the pulleys or belts. On the hoses I just used soapy water, don't want any harsh chemicals there. Oil eats them. Don't want to risk having a cleaner eat rubber too.
Y'know, I still don't know where this oil came from. The eccentric had no evidence of oil around it -- and I'm not entirely sure it came from the pan gasket either. Maybe it dribbled out of the filter or the filler. I just cleaned the bottom yesterday -- the top I had done a few weeks ago, when I discovered the overfill and confirmed the oil drip. Which hasn't come back since I drained the excess quart. Sheesh. Is there no one you can trust anymore?
(I know -- the answer is "no". And those precious few you can trust -- cherish them.)
Oh yeah! I found the oil filler cap o-ring by where the filter is! (right on top of the engine, where the 2nd mazda logo is, just next to the filter tower). How.. the F.. did that piece go from the cap to there?!?!
I have another theory that just occurred to me -- maybe some squirted out of the dipstick tube. That area is also by the filter tower, and the outside of the stopper on the dipstick was absolutely filthy as was the general vicinity of the dipstick tube hole. There was even oil by the plug wires (also cleaned that mess up. ) It looked like oil had dripped from there down to the bottom (the dipstick's roughly in line with the oil lever sensor on the pan.. which was also filthy with oil, as was most of the pan.) At this point I think oil squirted from the dipstick tube, and possibly the oil filler cap -- since it was missing the o-ring till I found it. Thing is, by the cap it was fairly clean -- the real mess was on the filter side of the engine, then on TOP of the water pump pulley housing (how'd it get there?!) and underneath, but oddly enough, not from any seals I could find. What does bother me is the copious amounts of oil found by the PS pump connector, the lump in the middle front bottom of the engine) etc -- I don't know what's down there besides the eccentric seal.. still researching all this mess. I just hope nothing's broken and that my OMP still lives. Since I don't trust Hope, I'm looking to test it as soon's I learn how.
* Something similar happened to me in the stone age with the miata, at Accardi Mazda (Thankfully now gone, toast, broke, foreclosed.. may they burn in hell, crooks and butchers, the lot of them!) -- my miata lost ability to shift, and again I was in no position to work on it myself -- they got me for a complete clutch job. Still woulodn't shift right.
It was the @#!# clutch slave. A 75 dollar part, and 20 minutes to swap by myself. They refused to refund me the $$$$.˘˘ for the clutch job. After talking to "people" the cost of hauling their sad carcass to court would be more than I'd recoup from said action -- so I let it be. So knowing this... you think I actually trust dealers, even when they screwed up my oil change? To hell with them, from now on I do it all. Just bought four jackstands and a jack, and will be doing as much routine maint. as I can -- plugs, oil changes, wires, coils, belts, etc. I used to do all this stuff back in the day, when I had access to lifts, etc. Now I have a garage again, so.. time to pick up the wrench again.
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02-01-2012, 08:14 PM
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lots of our local guys have had a small leak around the omp during tracking--we stopped it by using the rubber oem gasket + some rtv.
Other have a very small leak from the oil cooler line connections during high pressures only--over time it spreads and deposits everywhere.
Do as suggested--clean it off first.
Other have a very small leak from the oil cooler line connections during high pressures only--over time it spreads and deposits everywhere.
Do as suggested--clean it off first.
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