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Putting the AT in neutral while at longer stop lights

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Old 01-31-2008 | 02:08 PM
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Putting the AT in neutral while at longer stop lights

Does this do the tranny any good Or BAD?

It seems to be logically it's good, because the tranny sitting at N rather then D and holding down the brakes

Then again it seems to hurt the tranny because of the more often transition from N to D and D to N.

Which one would end up being better?
Old 01-31-2008 | 04:45 PM
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it doesnt really matter, AT was designed with stop in mind.

I think it actually burn more gas in N than in D with Brakes on.

Just leave it in D.
Old 01-31-2008 | 04:52 PM
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Actually, putting the car in N while stopping at red lights saves gas. If you know the light just turned red, it wouldn't hurt putting it in neutral. And nothing will happen to the tranny either..
Old 01-31-2008 | 04:59 PM
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Nothing will happen of course. but I think for a Rotary it uses more gas to idle than to run.
Old 01-31-2008 | 05:03 PM
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Nothing will happen of course. but I think for a Rotary it uses more gas to idle than to run.
unfortunately your correct - nature of the beast.
Old 01-31-2008 | 05:06 PM
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if you just drive around town for 15 minutes, your gas needle probably will not move much

but if you sit and idle for 15 minutes ... you will cry.
Old 01-31-2008 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Nothing will happen of course. but I think for a Rotary it uses more gas to idle than to run.
No
In D you are putting a small load on the motor which will not only use more gas but put more heat into the engine/transmission - this could cause overheating in extreme conditions (ie hot day with less than perfect radiator etc )
Old 01-31-2008 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
if you just drive around town for 15 minutes, your gas needle probably will not move much

but if you sit and idle for 15 minutes ... you will cry.
no no no

think about it nycgps - at idle afr sits at around 14:1 . At cruise AFR is around 14:1 also . The difference is 800rpm vs 3000rpm - you HAVE to be using more gas when the motor is at a higher speed .

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Old 01-31-2008 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
if you just drive around town for 15 minutes, your gas needle probably will not move much

but if you sit and idle for 15 minutes ... you will cry.

haha......Couldn't help but laugh on that one. I think I learned the hard way.
Old 01-31-2008 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
no no no

think about it nycgps - at idle afr sits at around 14:1 . At cruise AFR is around 14:1 also . The difference is 800rpm vs 3000rpm - you HAVE to be using more gas when the motor is at a higher speed .
no need to no no no

try it, you'll know what i mean. keep it slow and hmm less than 3 K rpm tho. it will use more or less the same amount of gas (assume that your engine already warm up and ready to go)
Old 02-01-2008 | 01:05 AM
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Does the RPM change in N versus D at stop/idle? If yes, then the one with higher RPM might burn more gas. But the one with higher RPM will keep engine cooler too (because the water pump will run faster) and will reduce idle shaking as well. So do the test and draw your own conclusions...
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Lol..I have no idea, guess i'l leave this at D, it's for my mazda3 anyways=P
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Slipping it in neutral while coasting isn't good for the automatic transmission as it reduces the amount of fluid/oil pressure available for lubrication/cooling of the clutch packs and bands. That's probably splitting hairs, though, and any gains aren't probably worth the hassle.
Absolutely correct, ever since somewhere back in the sixties when they removed the rear pump from the auto tranny, of course this also negated push starting a car with an auto transmission. AHHH for the good old days as kids driving junkers, we could push start anything. lol
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Slipping it in neutral while coasting .
who said anything about coasting ?
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