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Old 04-26-2005, 01:11 PM
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Question Quest for N/A powa!

Ok, I own a base 8 and feel that staying N/A would keep its reliability. I know some guys on here already have turbos but this is not the route I want to take. I would be happy if I could run a 13 second pass all n/a. Is this a pipe dream or can it be done? I'm guessing that i'm lookin for roughly 220whp to acheive this. Aside from the regular bolt ons what else can I do to make this happen?
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Look at reducing weight: wheels, seats, A/C, sound deadening, battery, driver. It all adds up to be less car to push down the strip.
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do everything charles hill has done except the nitro. that should put you right at 220. and he hasnt even started tuning with a piggy back yet
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Thanks for the responses but I forgot to mention that I'm not going to drag the car much , I just want to get the car in the 13 second range. I'm setting the car up for autox. This is still my daily driver and I don't want to make too many sacrifices. I need A/C! how much weight is in the sound deadening? Also I noticed that most use the emanage as the piggyback. How about the safc 2? which is better for our car?
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i thikn charles hill got in the 13 sec range..with a mid-pipe, flywheel, pulleys, and intake (but i think he put the stock intake back in b/c it was better)...btu now the revi is out....so that should really effect daily driving at all. oh and he left all his seats and carpeting in the car i believe...you can pm him for details ... or i guess look at his profile to see his mods :D

(he has racing beat suspension i think)
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It all depends on RWHP | Weight of Car+Driver | # of Shifts to Cross 1/4 Finish | Tire Height | Final Drive Ratio and then driver skill. So, lets say I am at 220 HP, 3100 lbs, 3 Shifts, 25.72", 4.44:1. That is a 14.02 ET so I need more HP to go under 14 sec.

Of course this is all speculation using the calculator from RX7.com
http://rx7.com/accel_calculator.html#

Tire Heights:
http://www.sstire.com/tireheights.html

Gear Ratios:
1st 3.76:1
2nd 2.27:1
3rd 1.65:1
4th 1.19:1
5th 1.00:1
6th 0.84:1
Final drive 4.44:1
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Originally Posted by army_rx8
i thikn charles hill got in the 13 sec range..with a mid-pipe, flywheel, pulleys, and intake (but i think he put the stock intake back in b/c it was better)...btu now the revi is out....so that should really effect daily driving at all. oh and he left all his seats and carpeting in the car i believe...you can pm him for details ... or i guess look at his profile to see his mods :D

(he has racing beat suspension i think)

What is the revi?
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What is the revi?

Racing Beat.
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
It all depends on RWHP | Weight of Car+Driver | # of Shifts to Cross 1/4 Finish | Tire Height | Final Drive Ratio and then driver skill. So, lets say I am at 220 HP, 3100 lbs, 3 Shifts, 25.72", 4.44:1. That is a 14.02 ET so I need more HP to go under 14 sec.

Of course this is all speculation using the calculator from RX7.com
http://rx7.com/accel_calculator.html#

Tire Heights:
http://www.sstire.com/tireheights.html

Gear Ratios:
1st 3.76:1
2nd 2.27:1
3rd 1.65:1
4th 1.19:1
5th 1.00:1
6th 0.84:1
Final drive 4.44:1

Be careful with calculators...HP doesn't create good e/t's...driver does. I'd say ANY car with the power to run 14.02 could run 13.8 with a good driver.

I bet we'll see a stock RX8 with a 13-second timeslip this summer.

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Originally Posted by dmp
Be careful with calculators...HP doesn't create good e/t's...driver does. I'd say ANY car with the power to run 14.02 could run 13.8 with a good driver.

I bet we'll see a stock RX8 with a 13-second timeslip this summer.

Not with the stock rims/tires or suspension. Change those and I'm sure your right (with a good driver )
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
Not with the stock rims/tires or suspension. Change those and I'm sure your right (with a good driver )

...people also said no stock probe will ever run in the 14s...

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Originally Posted by dmp
...people also said no stock probe will ever run in the 14s...

:D
Sounds like you got the itch
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
Sounds like you got the itch

:D The car is only .5 away from that right now...Maybe I'll take out the Audio...back seat...passenger seat...and go beat on the clutch for an afternoon.

:D
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Originally Posted by dmp
:D The car is only .5 away from that right now...Maybe I'll take out the Audio...back seat...passenger seat...and go beat on the clutch for an afternoon.

:D

I'm thinking the exact same thing but I'm gonna run with 17's and rb springs....we shall see. :D
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