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Originally Posted by PoorCollegeKid
Actually, as soon as you hit 9001rpm, they can claim that anything that went wrong with your engine was a result of your abuse. Redline is technically the rpm that you are not supposed to exceed under any circumstances, and once you do it's considered unecessary abuse.
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Originally Posted by rppngears
I don't see any point to revving to redline in the RX8. I can feel and more-less confirmed with a G-tech that power drops off above ~6500, so there is no point in revving higher. I wish our engines made power up to 9k like they should.
In my view there is no point in having an engine that revvs to 9k if you stop making power at 2/3 of that.
Just out of curiosity has anyone called Mazda to ask why the engine stops making power at 6500 and then the dyno charts confirm that the performance goes to crap?
In my view there is no point in having an engine that revvs to 9k if you stop making power at 2/3 of that.
Just out of curiosity has anyone called Mazda to ask why the engine stops making power at 6500 and then the dyno charts confirm that the performance goes to crap?
Originally Posted by philodox
Just unattach your car battery for 10 minutes, then reconnect.. resets the stored ECU data.. problem solved.
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No, it will not wipe the black box that records road speed, whether the air bags deployed and safety faults parameters things like that...
It will just wipe the vehicles ECU of stored data. Remember the ECU is a learning ECU. Disconnecting the battery will wipe the memory so it will have to 'learn' all over again... the black box you are talking about is a different entity.
It will just wipe the vehicles ECU of stored data. Remember the ECU is a learning ECU. Disconnecting the battery will wipe the memory so it will have to 'learn' all over again... the black box you are talking about is a different entity.
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Originally Posted by philodox
No, it will not wipe the black box that records road speed, whether the air bags deployed and safety faults parameters things like that...
It will just wipe the vehicles ECU of stored data. Remember the ECU is a learning ECU. Disconnecting the battery will wipe the memory so it will have to 'learn' all over again... the black box you are talking about is a different entity.
It will just wipe the vehicles ECU of stored data. Remember the ECU is a learning ECU. Disconnecting the battery will wipe the memory so it will have to 'learn' all over again... the black box you are talking about is a different entity.
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Originally Posted by PoorCollegeKid
I believe that engine speed is also recorded in the "black box" in addition to the data that you mentioned, which is why I did not think that a simple battery disconnect would wipe evidence of over rev if it occurred recently. I don't know how much information can be stored in the RX8's "black box", but I know that for most cars it's rather small, allowing only the last 15-20 minutes of driving time to be stored.
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Originally Posted by philodox
correct on all points. i do want to mention that the 'black box' is 100% non-servicable. The dealer is not authorized to touch it. So you need not worry about your dealer finding out how often you peg the tach if you do the ECU memory flush.. i.e. disconnect the battery for 10 minutes or so.
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Originally Posted by rppngears
I don't see any point to revving to redline in the RX8. I can feel and more-less confirmed with a G-tech that power drops off above ~6500, so there is no point in revving higher. I wish our engines made power up to 9k like they should.
In my view there is no point in having an engine that revvs to 9k if you stop making power at 2/3 of that.
Just out of curiosity has anyone called Mazda to ask why the engine stops making power at 6500 and then the dyno charts confirm that the performance goes to crap?
In my view there is no point in having an engine that revvs to 9k if you stop making power at 2/3 of that.
Just out of curiosity has anyone called Mazda to ask why the engine stops making power at 6500 and then the dyno charts confirm that the performance goes to crap?
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You guys are real paranoid. Mazda would be out of business overnight if they denied repairing a car's engine components if the power train has not been modified. They made the car to work within the boundaries that they have established. Abuse is going to the dealership with bald tires in the back while the front ones are still brand new. They can put some pressure on you but they have to stand by their warranty. That's why they gave you traction control, dsc and abs. If they allow you to turn off DSC in full (by holding the button for 7 seconds), that is a tool they gave you to use. Even in their marketing brochure they talk about turning DSC off so you can "drift". HELLOOOOOOOOOO they are selling a sports car that they know full well will be pushed to its limits regularly and repeatedly. They brag about going to 9,000 and it being the only production car that does. I even have a few videos of their own drivers on Laguna Seca shifting each time well past the beep into the 9500RPM range and flooring the car, power shifting the gears (no let off the gas when shifting) and pounding the car like it needs it becausde it loves the abuse! Sorry my man, I obviously disagree. You bought the car to have fun with it so drive it as you please within the limits they set out for you, but always ensure you are not risking anyone's life in the process! especially yours.
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Originally Posted by Shamblerock
You guys are real paranoid. Mazda would be out of business overnight if they denied repairing a car's engine components if the power train has not been modified. They made the car to work within the boundaries that they have established. Abuse is going to the dealership with bald tires in the back while the front ones are still brand new. They can put some pressure on you but they have to stand by their warranty. That's why they gave you traction control, dsc and abs. If they allow you to turn off DSC in full (by holding the button for 7 seconds), that is a tool they gave you to use. Even in their marketing brochure they talk about turning DSC off so you can "drift". HELLOOOOOOOOOO they are selling a sports car that they know full well will be pushed to its limits regularly and repeatedly. They brag about going to 9,000 and it being the only production car that does. I even have a few videos of their own drivers on Laguna Seca shifting each time well past the beep into the 9500RPM range and flooring the car, power shifting the gears (no let off the gas when shifting) and pounding the car like it needs it becausde it loves the abuse! Sorry my man, I obviously disagree. You bought the car to have fun with it so drive it as you please within the limits they set out for you, but always ensure you are not risking anyone's life in the process! especially yours.
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Bryrx804, I have read somewhere else about not hearing the beep that it is connected to the audible beeps of the stereo etc and when beeps are turned off it also turns off the redline beep, may work give it a shot
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I wasn't the original poster but I too cannot hear the beep (I heard the beep on other RX-8's just not mine) although I can hear a high pitched sound (maybe the engine or something else, sounds like a dog whistle
) and I did turn the Audio beep on, windows up, AC off etc...
I think it is time for me to take my 8 in... anyone have a successful resolution for this yet?
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I think it is time for me to take my 8 in... anyone have a successful resolution for this yet?
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