Remedy for a Stripped MAF Screw Thread
#1
Remedy for a Stripped MAF Screw Thread
Hi, car is a used 2005 6MT. I found the screw thread in one of the holes in the airbox (where the MAF screws into) to be stripped. There is no tension when I try screwing in the MAF screw nearest to the engine (opposite side of resonance chamber). It is relying on the other good screw. Anyway, besides wasting a few hundred dollars to get a new airbox, is there any cheap and good DIY method to reinstate the stripped thread in the airbox? Thanks in advance for all your helpful suggestions.
#2
Use an epoxy resin in the damaged thread,I used a syringe and needle to apply it,let it go off,use a drill size that will leave enough resin in the orifice to use the standard screw. I had the same thing happen.
#3
Cool! Will a hobby grade 2 part 30-minute expoxy work? And has it held up well to engine heat and repeated unscrewing? Thanks!
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Well...if I were you I would not do what the suggested epoxy alone method mentioned above. That's just a temporary solution to hold a screw in place where when you take it out next time, you have to do all over again. Not only that, but it's not exactly holding the screw down tight alike to torquing it down to metal threads.
A proper way to do this is either:
A) If enough insert material is available, just go to the next size bigger screw after tapping the insert to the next size
B) Use a drill to completely drill out/remove the insert currently in place and replace it with a new one using epoxy that is meant for plastic/metal combined, not metal on metal and go back to using the same screw.
A proper way to do this is either:
A) If enough insert material is available, just go to the next size bigger screw after tapping the insert to the next size
B) Use a drill to completely drill out/remove the insert currently in place and replace it with a new one using epoxy that is meant for plastic/metal combined, not metal on metal and go back to using the same screw.
Last edited by Vlaze; 07-30-2010 at 04:16 PM.
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IIRC, those screws are not self tapping....for aftermarket intakes, there are threads already made on the aluminum manifolds (AEM/MS) and the stock ones use insert placed in the plastic.
If I don't recall correctly for the stock intake and there is no insert used (which actually would be more ideal), then I would simply added drill the hole bigger and place in a metal insert in there bonded with epoxy and let it cure.
If I don't recall correctly for the stock intake and there is no insert used (which actually would be more ideal), then I would simply added drill the hole bigger and place in a metal insert in there bonded with epoxy and let it cure.
Last edited by Vlaze; 07-30-2010 at 04:23 PM.
#11
The only way to fix it with the original screw is to plastic weld it...easy...then use a small drill for relief and re-thread with the small self tapping screw
A slightly bigger screw works great too....
Epoxy would be my last choice...cause it makes it difficult to clean it up and do it properly when the epoxy comes loose
A slightly bigger screw works great too....
Epoxy would be my last choice...cause it makes it difficult to clean it up and do it properly when the epoxy comes loose
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Hrm....I don't recall those screws being self tapping.. oh well. If they are, then what Dan suggested would work fine. I'd prefer metal inserts in place bonded with epoxy to the intake which would never come out and less likely to strip.
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Maybe the US and EU stock maf tubes different, mine is secured with 2 very very small black metal self tappers.And the screws sit "in" a recessed hole in the maf mounting pad, so using a larger screw would look shitty, but effective. Each to his own, i suppose the op could just purchase an aftermarket CAI and remedy his problem.
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Yup, it is. I checked myself; the lighter color of the threads on a glance gave me the impression when I first worked on the MAF a while back it was inserts, which would have been a better design but nope, threaded plastic.
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PS: These screws are NOT meant to be removed and put back in multiple times. If cleaning the MAF is a regular maintenance practice, some permanent solution has to be performed. I was even thinking of helicoils.
#19
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm crap at DIY so I used the simple epoxy solution that fastfreddy mentioned. Seems ok for now. Leejin, I agree these screws are not meant for multiple removal and the next time it happens, I'm gonna go with the plastic welding technique that you and danobre suggested. Would a simple 40W soldering iron and some loose plastic tree scraps from an old airfix/rc car work?
#20
Took the MAF out for cleaning.
Noticed that the plastic treads were looking like black springs in the holes... No longer attached.
I used epoxy made for plastic.
left it overnight.
At first I used a smaller drill bit and found out how brittle epoxy is when set.
I switched to a bit almost as big as the MAF screw diameter... I'll check the size... and all was good! Very solid MAF mounting now.
If you're doing this make sure you have a spare rubber o-ring for the MAF! Mine was stretched for some reason
Noticed that the plastic treads were looking like black springs in the holes... No longer attached.
I used epoxy made for plastic.
left it overnight.
At first I used a smaller drill bit and found out how brittle epoxy is when set.
I switched to a bit almost as big as the MAF screw diameter... I'll check the size... and all was good! Very solid MAF mounting now.
If you're doing this make sure you have a spare rubber o-ring for the MAF! Mine was stretched for some reason
#21
Took the MAF out for cleaning.
Noticed that the plastic treads were looking like black springs in the holes... No longer attached.
I used epoxy made for plastic.
left it overnight.
At first I used a smaller drill bit and found out how brittle epoxy is when set.
I switched to a bit almost as big as the MAF screw diameter... I'll check the size... and all was good! Very solid MAF mounting now.
If you're doing this make sure you have a spare rubber o-ring for the MAF! Mine was stretched for some reason
Noticed that the plastic treads were looking like black springs in the holes... No longer attached.
I used epoxy made for plastic.
left it overnight.
At first I used a smaller drill bit and found out how brittle epoxy is when set.
I switched to a bit almost as big as the MAF screw diameter... I'll check the size... and all was good! Very solid MAF mounting now.
If you're doing this make sure you have a spare rubber o-ring for the MAF! Mine was stretched for some reason
I didn't have a spare o-ring. I don't remember it being loose.... Damn, should I be taking it out and redoing with a new o-ring? So far, it drives ok.
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I cant believe how cheap that part is made, I didnt think I over tightened the maf when I put it back in but I guess I did. Stripped mine in an 09 today.
I went the bigger screw method, I couldnt care less how it looks not like anyone is gonna be in my engine bay except me. I really wanted to take it to the dealer and try and get the part replaced under warranty but I couldnt see it happening because they would just say its my fault rather than mazdas for a weak design.
I went the bigger screw method, I couldnt care less how it looks not like anyone is gonna be in my engine bay except me. I really wanted to take it to the dealer and try and get the part replaced under warranty but I couldnt see it happening because they would just say its my fault rather than mazdas for a weak design.
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