Notices
Series I Tech Garage The place to discuss anything technical about the RX-8 that doesn't fit into any of the categories below.

Running very rich!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 10-13-2003, 06:35 PM
  #1  
I like cheese!
Thread Starter
 
syntrix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Little Rock, AR (was vegas)
Posts: 957
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Running very rich!

Ok, got my new digital logger back for the separately installed wideband.

This is just a bit of a run on the freeway, 4th gear, about 60-80mph.

I'll have to get some better runs later tonight, and also when I test the aux box to add the wires for my egt and tap in a few other engine sensors. Then the sky is the limit for monitoring while tuning.

Old 10-14-2003, 12:01 AM
  #2  
mostly harmless
 
wakeech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Greater Vancouver Area, BC
Posts: 3,440
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts


...holy jeez man... are you SURE this wideband is calibrated correctly??? that's insane...
Old 10-14-2003, 01:19 AM
  #3  
Is this title ok?
 
seikx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: El Monte, CA
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Holy crap... that's rich . If it's true, there is hope for better gas mileage with some leaning. :D

I would also question about the calibration of the wideband.
Old 10-14-2003, 08:12 AM
  #4  
I like cheese!
Thread Starter
 
syntrix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Little Rock, AR (was vegas)
Posts: 957
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
It's being recalibrated this morning.

This is what I saw with the other unit, too.
It is a narrow range of rpm!!

Give it a few days and I'll be able to get better data out of it all.
Old 10-14-2003, 08:18 AM
  #5  
Registered
 
Wing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Ottawa,ON
Posts: 1,271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Me no understand graph. Explaination please?

Axis's????

Thanks
Old 10-14-2003, 08:25 AM
  #6  
Registered User
 
goodyrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I wish I knew what you guys were talking about. It looks very interesting.
Old 10-14-2003, 09:42 AM
  #7  
I like cheese!
Thread Starter
 
syntrix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Little Rock, AR (was vegas)
Posts: 957
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Ok, that was it... calibration. Re-did the car cold after sitting all night and morning. Initial calibration was only with the car sitting for about 2 hours.

It's reading in the low .70's to ~ .75 on WOT for a lambda reading.

I logged some runs to work, forgot the serial cable, so I'll plot some new ones tonight.

There were mentions of "leaning" part way through the rpm's. I'm not seeing anything like that at all.
Old 10-14-2003, 11:01 AM
  #8  
mostly harmless
 
wakeech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Greater Vancouver Area, BC
Posts: 3,440
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by syntrix
Ok, that was it... calibration.
phew... i can only hope that made teh reading nearly twice as lean... :-s

Originally posted by syntrix

It's reading in the low .70's to ~ .75 on WOT for a lambda reading.

I logged some runs to work, forgot the serial cable, so I'll plot some new ones tonight.

There were mentions of "leaning" part way through the rpm's. I'm not seeing anything like that at all.
that doesn't sound too terrible... not like this 7.5:1 stuff!!

uh, yeah... your x axis (which i'm assuming is some range of rpm) doesn't seem to be indicative of an rpm range... unless that's x10 for engine speed??

as far as leaning the curve as rpm's increase, this isn't the case with the stock unit: around idle, it can hit nearly 16:1, but seems to hover at ~11:1 through the rest of the range (from that old old dynoplot), which is obviously way the hell too rich.

canzoomer's made tremendous progress in performance changing the curves and timing, so it really ought to be rich, even wiht properly calibrated readings.
Old 10-14-2003, 12:32 PM
  #9  
I like cheese!
Thread Starter
 
syntrix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Little Rock, AR (was vegas)
Posts: 957
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
But the dyno plot is post cat readings.

I'm looking at pre-cat readings, independent O2 sensor.

Yeah, I was a bit worried about those levels, but I should have some decent graphs later tonight.

X is just time, I don't have anything else hooked up yet.
Old 10-14-2003, 07:17 PM
  #10  
100% Italian
 
mikeb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: orange,ca
Posts: 9,422
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Atleast I'm not the only confused one
Old 10-14-2003, 07:57 PM
  #11  
I like cheese!
Thread Starter
 
syntrix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Little Rock, AR (was vegas)
Posts: 957
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
You will learn very soon grasshopper son!

I did a better calibrated graph here:

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=12789

Ignore the one above!
Old 10-15-2003, 01:20 AM
  #12  
100% Italian
 
mikeb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: orange,ca
Posts: 9,422
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thanks syntrix
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RevMeHarder
New Member Forum
6
08-16-2023 06:23 PM
JimmyBlack
Series I Major Horsepower Upgrades
273
02-10-2020 10:23 PM
SBGarage
Sakebomb Garage
3
10-22-2015 04:28 PM
SBGarage
Group Buy Center
1
09-12-2015 08:18 PM
yapakanichi
Series I Tech Garage
20
09-10-2015 07:17 AM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Running very rich!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:46 PM.