Notices
Series I Tech Garage The place to discuss anything technical about the RX-8 that doesn't fit into any of the categories below.

an RX8er's rebuild thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 06-05-2012, 08:55 PM
  #951  
what was I thinking
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
houstonrx8er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Converse, TX
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
as far as the vacuum reading they are between 13-14psi (low right?)

I do have to say that the car did start twice after it was hot, that hasnt happened yet
Old 06-06-2012, 05:02 AM
  #952  
Out of NYC
iTrader: (1)
 
nycgps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 19,881
Received 32 Likes on 30 Posts
Originally Posted by houstonrx8er
so I had to fight with the tester a little bit but when I removed the "check valve" in the line I finally got it to read.......and drumroll please..... all 3 blips of both rotors where over 35psi. That is a good thing looking at 9k's post but I cant get the overall "115" #. Any advice?
Originally Posted by houstonrx8er
as far as the vacuum reading they are between 13-14psi (low right?)

I do have to say that the car did start twice after it was hot, that hasnt happened yet
35 PSI????

vacuum should be 16 or higher isn't it?

what da heck?
Old 06-06-2012, 07:09 AM
  #953  
what was I thinking
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
houstonrx8er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Converse, TX
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
no, thats the compression test results......vacuum was was 14
Old 06-06-2012, 09:09 AM
  #954  
Lucky #33
iTrader: (4)
 
hoss -05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Antonio, SARX Garage
Posts: 2,851
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by houstonrx8er
I know dude I didnt listen....crap

next time I am going to draw my own blood and put it in a mold of a rotor and 1-up all you SOB's. solid blood rotor....its got to be at least 50hp

Dude... did you ever see the guy who dose a mold of his face with his own frozen blood every five years....
Old 06-06-2012, 09:25 AM
  #955  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,785
Received 454 Likes on 368 Posts
13-14 vacuum is pretty low bro.
Old 06-06-2012, 09:39 AM
  #956  
Lucky #33
iTrader: (4)
 
hoss -05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Antonio, SARX Garage
Posts: 2,851
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Old 06-06-2012, 09:59 AM
  #957  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
olddragger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: macon, georgia
Posts: 10,828
Likes: 0
Received 38 Likes on 27 Posts
13-14 vacuum is pretty low. What is the vacuum at 2K rpms without a load on it?
I bet its higher.
all rotor faces with about equal compression is good---- I would drive the hell of out it for a little while. Then look at your sparkplugs and get an oil analysis? See if you have a lot of wear metal or a lot of fuel in the oil? Just an idea. I wouldnt tear it down--yet.
isnt compression using a "regular" compression gauge around 80-100psi?

Last edited by olddragger; 06-06-2012 at 10:12 AM.
Old 06-06-2012, 10:32 AM
  #958  
what was I thinking
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
houstonrx8er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Converse, TX
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by olddragger
13-14 vacuum is pretty low. What is the vacuum at 2K rpms without a load on it?
I bet its higher.
all rotor faces with about equal compression is good---- I would drive the hell of out it for a little while. Then look at your sparkplugs and get an oil analysis? See if you have a lot of wear metal or a lot of fuel in the oil? Just an idea. I wouldnt tear it down--yet.
isnt compression using a "regular" compression gauge around 80-100psi?
it was over 20 if I remember correctly, I will check it again when I get home.

looked at plugs last night while I did compression test, look as I would expect them to look, not wet or white or anything like that

Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
The factory intake manifold vacuum spec (assuming sea level) is 17-20 in./hg.
15-16 is low but not necessarily alarming.

35 PSI for compression and the engine would not even run.
thats what I though but I followed the proceedure 9k posted (RR I beleive) and everything matches but I couldnt get the tester to read in the 3-digit range

I do have to say the car started right up this morning...best it has so far.
Old 06-06-2012, 10:40 AM
  #959  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,785
Received 454 Likes on 368 Posts
Well that is a good sign
Old 06-06-2012, 10:42 AM
  #960  
SARX
iTrader: (2)
 
cornholio135's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Converse TX
Posts: 2,008
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
the concensus seems to be to keep driving it....

wonder if after driving home today it will "Hot" start????
Old 06-06-2012, 10:43 AM
  #961  
Registered
 
rotarygod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 9,134
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 23 Posts
Originally Posted by nycgps
most of them would bitch at you and say use Groopy. you know it's true RG !
I refuse to buy anything from anyone named Goopy.
Old 06-06-2012, 10:43 AM
  #962  
what was I thinking
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
houstonrx8er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Converse, TX
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I drove it today

and it hot started today when I got here.
Old 06-06-2012, 10:45 AM
  #963  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,785
Received 454 Likes on 368 Posts
TX

Originally Posted by rotarygod
i refuse to buy anything from anyone named goopy.

+1.
Old 06-06-2012, 10:47 AM
  #964  
Registered
 
rotarygod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 9,134
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 23 Posts
I also don't use claims like this as validation for a product:

"NO we do not have data or photos showing results after 20,000 miles.
However, we have had very high HP racers running our refurbished housings with our Goopy Performance Apex Seals for a full race season (40-50+ passes) while maintaining very high compression and no housing damage
of any kind"

What that says is that they know for a fact that their product can live between 10-12.5 miles at full throttle with 40-50 breaks mixed in. Being proven on a 1/4 mile drag strip is meaningless to a street car. Being proven at the 24 hours of Lemans however is a bit different!
Old 06-06-2012, 10:48 AM
  #965  
SARX
iTrader: (2)
 
cornholio135's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Converse TX
Posts: 2,008
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by houstonrx8er
I drove it today

and it hot started today when I got here.
Well there ya go...
Old 06-06-2012, 10:53 AM
  #966  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
olddragger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: macon, georgia
Posts: 10,828
Likes: 0
Received 38 Likes on 27 Posts
if the vacuum between idle and 2K prms changes from 13-14 to 20 and above--then that is weak sealing at idle---unless its a ported engine?
what that would mean to me --continue to drive the heck out of it for a while. I bet it is going to get better. the bad ju-ju will go away
Old 06-06-2012, 10:55 AM
  #967  
what was I thinking
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
houstonrx8er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Converse, TX
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by olddragger
if the vacuum between idle and 2K prms changes from 13-14 to 20 and above--then that is weak sealing at idle---unless its a ported engine?
what that would mean to me --continue to drive the heck out of it for a while. I bet it is going to get better. the bad ju-ju will go away
I am ported and it is official...I am going to drive the **** out of it
Old 06-06-2012, 12:28 PM
  #968  
Out of NYC
iTrader: (1)
 
nycgps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 19,881
Received 32 Likes on 30 Posts
phew i was about to say mmmmmm wwaaaat 35?¿?¿?¿?¿

OK. well it seems that its working fine now. that's a good sign.

give it more break in time.
Old 06-06-2012, 12:40 PM
  #969  
what was I thinking
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
houstonrx8er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Converse, TX
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by nycgps
phew i was about to say mmmmmm wwaaaat 35?¿?¿?¿?¿

OK. well it seems that its working fine now. that's a good sign.

give it more break in time.
I think alot of this is caused by my super premix gas from that first tank
Old 06-06-2012, 01:09 PM
  #970  
Out of NYC
iTrader: (1)
 
nycgps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 19,881
Received 32 Likes on 30 Posts
Originally Posted by rotarygod
I also don't use claims like this as validation for a product:

"NO we do not have data or photos showing results after 20,000 miles.
However, we have had very high HP racers running our refurbished housings with our Goopy Performance Apex Seals for a full race season (40-50+ passes) while maintaining very high compression and no ho
of any kind"

What that says is that they know for a fact that their product can live between 10-12.5 miles at full throttle with 40-50 breaks mixed in. Being proven on a 1/4 mile drag strip is meaningless to a street car. Being proven at the 24 hours of Lemans however is a bit different!
that's also the reason why i bought new housing instead of doing that resurfacing thinnnngggg

i rather have my housing rechrome.
Old 06-06-2012, 01:16 PM
  #971  
SARX
iTrader: (2)
 
cornholio135's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Converse TX
Posts: 2,008
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by houstonrx8er
I am ported and it is official...I am going to drive the **** out of it
DO IT.......
Old 06-06-2012, 04:29 PM
  #972  
what was I thinking
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
houstonrx8er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Converse, TX
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
well on my drive home today I pretty much confirmed that my oil temp guage is jacked....or the cable routing is....and probably the latter

I got home and the RB guage said 240 so I put a high power fan in front of my other cooler until the driveside oil cooler fan kicked off (190 I beleive) and the OT on my RB pod was still 230 even after a few minutes....after thumping the cable with a flash light I was able to get the guage down 20deg......when it doubt blame opperator error
Old 06-06-2012, 06:40 PM
  #973  
Out of NYC
iTrader: (1)
 
nycgps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 19,881
Received 32 Likes on 30 Posts
240 ...

Is RB gauges mechanical or it's thru sensor ?

I love my Defi set never gave me any issues/errors. but sadly I killed the control unit by mistake. ****.
Old 06-06-2012, 06:59 PM
  #974  
what was I thinking
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
houstonrx8er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Converse, TX
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
its mechanical. I thought that is what I wanted but I have learned now. just not worth replacing.
Old 06-06-2012, 06:59 PM
  #975  
what was I thinking
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
houstonrx8er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Converse, TX
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
my coolant temps never saw above 195 which kind of confirms that messed up OT as well


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: an RX8er's rebuild thread



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:09 AM.