Originally Posted by houstonrx8er (Post 4236953)

sweet....where is BDC? theres that 20b creeping back in again.:aroused:

Originally Posted by houstonrx8er (Post 4237374)

BTW called atkins...looking at about 2 weeks and i went with the housings we talked about yesterday!

Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4237406)

Awesome! So you'll have all your parts in time to let them sit for the weekend while we do the Texas 8. LOL.

Originally Posted by houstonrx8er (Post 4237474)

Sounds like a pre drive maintenance party....followed by work on my build....followed by drive....post drive maintenance.....the more of my build.......the coffee......then back to the normal grind of things......mmmmhhhhhaaaaaaa

Originally Posted by houstonrx8er (Post 4237342)

^bastardo

Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4232719)

- You can try to send it to Groopy to have them look at it, if it's re-usable u can let them Lap (they call it Recondition) the housings for you. it's cheaper than buying new for sure. but u have cracks on it so I dunno if u wanna take that chance.
- Atkins kit w/cryo? if you're talking about Apex, skip them and use either Stock or go all out, which means either Dr. Ianetti or NRS ceramic seal. For other o-ring, you can try using their Viton seals, they last longer but it's harder to install them. Oh, you might want to get some cyro treated side seals and springs.
- The plates, Send it to someone to lap and re-nitrite, contact this place http://www.chipsmotorsports.com , I never used them before but I know they do both. price on their site said 13B for 580 bux. I assume that's the price to do all 3 plates. They also can mill your RX-8 rotors to use 3mm apex. but it's not really needed if you are going to use Ceramic and have a safe tune. Call them and ask if they do RX-8 plates too.
- Oil mod is a must, but easy to do
- You can let chipsmotorsports do it too, probably ask them to give u a discount.
- if u gonna spend so much, might as well get a header to go with it
- sounds like a wonderful idea.
- Yea
- Easy to get/do

Originally Posted by houstonrx8er (Post 4238006)

I would take it apart and see what your dealing with.....you may find you can get away with a $500 kit gamble is yours to take but from what I have gathered....you cant replace too much :)

Originally Posted by Chino_rx3 (Post 4237976)

Sorry to hack your build.,. Good luck with it , Im going to be rebuilding my engine it has low compression is still starts and runs but I dont drive it to prevent damage, Im looking to get a rebuilt kit but not sure from where, Im seen you mention atkins, I think im going that route but not sure what kit to do, I want to get all new internals if bearing look good im keeping since my cousin has rebuilt many engines and never changes the bearing if they look good, never had an issue unless is oil pressure or others..
Do I really need the 1200 kit atkins sells or can I go with the 600 one,
Im going to be selling my daily now to get all parts for my 8 but dont want to get stuff I dont really need and I want my engine to last, My couins is up in chicago so not sure if he going to rebuild my engine or my good friend ,
im going with stock apex seals ,
Not sure if I should take engine apart 1st to see wat im looking into or sell my daily to have money ready,, I work 5 min away I can take a bike my pride is good, My wife drives a Lexus truck I own a RX8 AND A RX3 I dont mind people thinking im broke, why cuz I am I owen Rotaries, lol

Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 4238282)

i am a firm believer in not putting new apex seals into used housings. I would have them lapped to insure a flat mating surface. Would you put new piston rings without treating the cyclinder wall on a recip engine--Hell no--not if you want it to last. Same thing with the rotary.

NOT BALANCING???? Want a minute...9K rpm engine with 2 cast iron heavy ass'ed rotors floating inbetween 2 iron plates at 3 K rpm and it doesnt need to be balanced? Yea yea I know the oil collecting in the rotors can throw the balance off- yadda yadda--and Mazda supposivly compensated for that--just like they supposivly compensaded for this and that too!
i wouldnt even THINK of building this engine without the best balancing job I could get. I am totally with Dan on this one.

Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4238318)

bare requirements would be all soft seals.

if you dont have a whole set of tools, its probably cheaper and better to have someone do the work for you.

and i recommend mazmart, rr, bdc, and bhr. contact them all to get a quote, just ask them how much would u get outta a good core - reason is if u will only get 300 or 500 outa a core and to ship it cost 200-300, whats the point? and tell them your budget. just keep in mind that you always get what you paid for. ceramic apex ? cryo sides? complete balancing and lighten assembly? all depends on ur budget.



well, to be honest most ppl keep their running engine under 7k ---- and factory balance is good for up to around 7-8k. its us performance junkie who wanna keep that sucker scream at 9k all the time -- even though its sucking our wallets dry ;)

Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4238037)

Yep its best to tear it apart first and see what you can reuse. For a basic rebuild id recommend
Apex seals and springs
Side seals and springs
Oil control ring springs and o rings
Oil scrapper ring springs
Corner seals/plugs and springs
Gasket kit

Dont forget all the specialty tools you will need and everything else. This is assuming of course you don't break anything, and all your housings and irons are in great shape. I would seriously consider paying someone to rebuild this engine for you. The renesis is not your regular 13B, you will need to get the 13bmsp workshop manual.

PLEASE LET SOMEONE REBUILD YOUR ENGINE FOR YOU.

Originally Posted by Chino_rx3 (Post 4238394)

O no doudt Im not rebuilding my engine my self my buddy is rebuilding it for me and he has all the tools since he been building motors for years , he has a drag car and a street car and he has rebuilt a previous renessis engine a few years back and car is still running good , no Issue what so ever,

I want to know I havent asked my friend yet if Im going to be needing the intake gasket kit and stuff ,? do i really need

Originally Posted by Chino_rx3 (Post 4238406)

for sure
Apex seals and springs
Side seals and springs
Oil control ring springs and o rings
Oil scrapper ring springs
Corner seals/plugs and springs

Gasket kit what kit is this the intake and exhaust kit ?

Originally Posted by houstonrx8er (Post 4238421)

I guess the real question is how much are you willing to spend on this if money isnt an issue I'd crack the thing open....if it is an issue I'd just get the thing cracked open and see what your dealing with :)

if you are only doing it yourself to save money and you break the thing open and you need to housings or irons it may be better to "outsource" (unless your like me and you wnat to get your fingers dirty but that doesnt sound like the case). Little things add up quick and esp if you want to take advantage of your engine being out....it really get expensive)

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Either way good luck to you....wish you the best

Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4238407)

the engine gasket kit comes with new intake gaskets. Don't skimp on replacing the cheap stuff...