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Old 12-19-2010 | 04:09 AM
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seals 2mm or 3mm

ok heres my piece... i bought a 05 rx8 about a year ago and recently been having problems with compression...come to find out its the damn seals..so my question is 2mm or 3mm? if i stick with 2mm how much would a mechanic charge to change them out? thks guys
Old 12-19-2010 | 04:27 AM
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how many miles do you have on your engine? If it's under 100k, you might still be under warranty...
Old 12-19-2010 | 04:33 AM
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naw its not under warranty its a rebuild
Old 12-19-2010 | 04:41 AM
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I don't have numbers at the moment. But, it's not cheap. You're pretty much having an engine completely taken apart...
And, stick with the 2mm

edit: give us more details about your car: eg mileage on car/ new engine, mods, etc. 3mm seals are for more aggressively modded engines
Old 12-19-2010 | 10:33 AM
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well its the sports edition nothin special done to it i am just tryin to get it up and runnin its got 8X,XXX miles and needs seals replaced cus bad compression i need like a ballpark price i was thinkin like 2500 bc it seems easier to remove than most engines bein rotary
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you don't even know the difference between 2 mm and 3 mm.

go do some homework first kid.
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I'll give you a heads up: if you're loosing compression because of the apex seals, you'll probably need or want to change the rest of your seals while you have the engine cracked.
It's true that this engine is much simpler to work on. But, finding someone who can properly work on it is a whole other can of worms...
I'd say you're lookin at around $3-4k work.
Research more on this car and see if it's right for you before you go and drop that kind of money on it...
Old 12-20-2010 | 08:55 AM
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first nyc ur a jacka$$ all i asked was for some advice and ur right i didnt know know to much about the seal sizes hince why i asked ...so im a noob and shouldnt ask anything right thks...abd soldier thks for the help man this aint my first rotary but my first time i have had engine probs with one so i not to sure bc i heard bad things bout the 3mm and good so i asked
Old 12-20-2010 | 09:08 AM
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omg im an *** for telling u to learn o yes im such an *** omg this is aint my first rotary but i just dun no **** blah blah blah i dont know **** im such a baby i wanna ppl spoon feed me with stuff no matter milk or info just spoon feed me i dun search i dun look i just wanna u gimme answer omg
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omg im an *** for telling u to learn o yes im such an *** omg this is aint my first rotary but i just dun no **** blah blah blah i dont know **** im such a baby i wanna ppl spoon feed me with stuff no matter milk or info just spoon feed me i dun search i dun look i just wanna u gimme answer omg
Rofl!
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You would have to mill your rotors to accomodate 3mm seals. Not sure why you would seek to do this.
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You would have to mill your rotors to accomodate 3mm seals. Not sure why you would seek to do this.
cuz he is a moron.

like I said on my earlier post, he doesn't know ****, not willing to learn, just want people to "give/tell/spoon feed" him answer(s).
Old 12-20-2010 | 10:22 AM
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There is no reason to run 3mm seals. They do not seal as well as 2mm and getting someone to properly mill the rotors to accept the larger seals is hard a well as expensive.

So many people think that changing the apex seals is like changing a head gasket, and it is not that easy. It will require a full rebuild and if you do it you need to pay close attention to the seal clearances as this is what makes a motor last.
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SpeedSource machined some rotors for me and they were very reasonable with their prices and accurate with their cuts. The concern when cutting the apex grooves in a Renesis is the possibility of perforating the rotor tips when doing so, and that is a matter only determined by the rotors themselves.
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Originally Posted by newtothegame
well its the sports edition nothin special done to it i am just tryin to get it up and runnin its got 8X,XXX miles and needs seals replaced cus bad compression i need like a ballpark price i was thinkin like 2500 bc it seems easier to remove than most engines bein rotary

He still has a warranty......



80k Some miles, on a 2005. Isn't he still eligible for the extended warranty.
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He still has a warranty......



80k Some miles, on a 2005. Isn't he still eligible for the extended warranty.
I wondered how long it would take for someone to say this and now how long for him to research this and come back and let us know what he found out. Of course if he is discouraged he might never come back....just saying....if we enjoy the rotary and want to see it go further then it would best if He goes away with a positive warm fuzzy feeling not a FU.

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He said the warranty was void because it was a salvage rebuild
Old 12-20-2010 | 11:53 AM
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He just said rebuild, so i just assumed the engine had been replaced once under warranty once before. And thought maybe he didn't know he could get it replaced as often as need until 100k

Didn't know it was under a salvage title.
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I guess I assumed that'd what he meant......seemed like everyone was do busy to tear him a new one they missed that
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wow.....nothing ever changes lol
Old 12-21-2010 | 04:11 AM
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the car had been totalled and rebuit ...and i have found engines for sale with the 3mm seal already put in (used) ..so thats honestly y i asked. but it seems from what i hear just to get the engine rebuilt would be better than gettin the new ones so im stickn w 2mm...thanks for the help and to the guys that wanna talk **** for no apparent reason thx for the motivation! lol they cant get me down lol
Old 12-21-2010 | 08:13 AM
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Where are you located?
Based on your posts it looks like you're not completely sure about what to do and what to look for in a rebuild. Based on your location you may be able to find a reputable shop to do it for you.
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watch this dumb noob gonna mess something up real fast and next thing I know is he gonna tell all his friend that "OMG r0tary sux0rz freakin' garbage im g0nna get a Civic again omg vtec just kickEd in y0!"
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Wow nycgps this guy really twisted your nipples. I've never seen you attack someone like this. This is usually my m o. Funny **** man!
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Wow nycgps this guy really twisted your nipples. I've never seen you attack someone like this. This is usually my m o. Funny **** man!
rofl well i don't hate anybody. but i've seen too many noobs ... not just on forum, real life too, they don't learn, just want ppl spoon feed them with answers (never does homework in college they just google the answer when the professor finds out and give them a big fat F they bitch at the professor I was like waaat?), when something ***** up they blame the others.

BrrWWAAARRR VTEC y0 !

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