Sequential Shifting System
#1
Sequential Shifting System
im going to install a sequential shifting system in the rx8 and need to know if our 6 speed manual is a 6 speed transaxle. if anyone knows it would be alot of help...and please dont reply if your going to say use the search button...dont have time thank you.
#2
Apparently you need to learn a little more the 8 before you start do a mod so in depth. You have ACT flywheel installed...did you not notice that our trans, differential, and drive axle are all separate drive line components? That would make it NOT a transaxle. Check this out, here's reading and a list of vehicles with a transaxle.
#4
im gonna go out on a limb and guess the installation should be funny if you ask that question lol.
but my intrigue deepens...what is a "sequential shifting system"....sequential as in a dogmission or are you modifying something?
kevin.
but my intrigue deepens...what is a "sequential shifting system"....sequential as in a dogmission or are you modifying something?
kevin.
#6
Meh, you can get a guru dogmission for under 10k. HKS sells one for a decent penny, but thats HKS of course.
driving a car with a dogmission is annoying, the gears scream/whine at all times. picture when you drive in reverse the whine you hear, tripled that and play it constantly in your head while driving. thats what it sounds like.
kevin.
driving a car with a dogmission is annoying, the gears scream/whine at all times. picture when you drive in reverse the whine you hear, tripled that and play it constantly in your head while driving. thats what it sounds like.
kevin.
#9
#10
#11
i havent heard it called a dogmission before.....dog-gear...or dog-box. but no ive been emailing back and forth with a company (sssdrive.com) they do it only for evo, wrx, and porche now but are developing a system for rear wheel drive cars. their system attaches to the side of the gear box and accuates the gears by just a tap of the stick up or down and with paddle shifting steering wheels. i have a 6-speed manual but i bought a automatic steering wheel with the paddle shifters...so the hardest part of the install (once i get it) will be to wire the steering wheel controls up right. when they are done with the final product i hope that i can cut the shifter down so the center console is clean. the kit will also come with a LED readout to show you what gear you are in plus safty measures to keep it from going into neutral or reverse when down shifting. the main reason im doing this is because i was recently in a dirt bike accedent and loss the use of my right arm (my shifter) and i dont know how much i will get back so im going to make the best of it. and as for the cost it really shouldnt be more then 3k.
#15
http://www.sssdrive.com/sss_eng.php
thats the link to the site.....they have asked me to give then the shifting lengths from gear to gear then they said they could make me a custom system. if any one knows where i could find that info or if they have it that would be much appreciated.
thats the link to the site.....they have asked me to give then the shifting lengths from gear to gear then they said they could make me a custom system. if any one knows where i could find that info or if they have it that would be much appreciated.
#16
Damn dude...sorry to hear about the bike accident
I can appreciate a good custom job, but whattabout just going with an automatic?
Make sure you post some picks....and how much that bad boy costs
Finally.....I hope this tranny has a safeguard to prevent overrevving by downshifting too soon
I can appreciate a good custom job, but whattabout just going with an automatic?
Make sure you post some picks....and how much that bad boy costs
Finally.....I hope this tranny has a safeguard to prevent overrevving by downshifting too soon
#17
#20
+1
In a sequential dog box, you still need the clutch for at least 1st gear. Once you get going, you have to shift fast because the period of dog engagement is the most vulnerable part, so the less time it takes you to shift, you safer you are, but then, it's pretty rough.
As for gear whine, that only if you use straight-cut gears, which isn't necessary, so whine is not an inherent property of dog engagement.
Sorry to say it, but you would be better off getting a car like an EvoX with a great automated manual.
In a sequential dog box, you still need the clutch for at least 1st gear. Once you get going, you have to shift fast because the period of dog engagement is the most vulnerable part, so the less time it takes you to shift, you safer you are, but then, it's pretty rough.
As for gear whine, that only if you use straight-cut gears, which isn't necessary, so whine is not an inherent property of dog engagement.
Sorry to say it, but you would be better off getting a car like an EvoX with a great automated manual.
#21
Does it hve anything to do with power? Basically you are saying because of the EVO's gears and power level? Would sequential dog box work well with a stock renenesis, IDK? I'm just saying, the EVO is hust about a completely different car IMO, IDK.
Last edited by bhop; 11-23-2009 at 10:03 PM.
#22
#23
You have to use the clutch to change down too.
The Sadev's change faster than the Quaife boxes though, better barrel and dogs, albeit more expensive.
Best bet would be a Geartronix paddle shift setup with either the quaife or a Sadev.
I would be very apprehensive about fitting a SSD unit to a standard syncho gearbox, because without some serious testing time and logging for setup you are likely to muller both the synchro's and the clutch.
The Sadev's change faster than the Quaife boxes though, better barrel and dogs, albeit more expensive.
Best bet would be a Geartronix paddle shift setup with either the quaife or a Sadev.
I would be very apprehensive about fitting a SSD unit to a standard syncho gearbox, because without some serious testing time and logging for setup you are likely to muller both the synchro's and the clutch.
#24
Does what have to do with power? I just recommended the EvoX MR because that car comes factory equipped with a dual-clutch automated manual (it is NOT a dog-box, however), and is very sporty for the money. However, many cars are coming equipped with this sort of transmission from $14k Fords, to $1.3million Bugatti Veyrons.
Phillip, why would you need the clutch for downshifts too? Is it that particular box that you're talking about? On my motorcycle (they all use dog-boxes), I can upshift and downshift without use of the clutch, it just takes very precise throttle modulation.
bhop, I don't think retrofitting the RX-8 with an automated gearbox is going to be an appropriate solution (unless you REALLY want the RX-8, and money is not much of a factor - as it will be pretty damn expensive). I recommended the Evo earlier, but if you want a RWD car, BMWs, and Porsches are being offered with good automated manuals too.
#25
I don't know much about what you are proposing, but it sounds like a built Automatic trans would suit your needs just fine, and that should run around the same price, (not including the trans, but find one at a junk yard if ya can).