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Old 09-21-2004, 12:41 PM
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What DTC codes will I need to clear myself? Maybe how many times I hit the rev limiter...
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actually since i am not in the computer field and have no training and dont have any idea which language, platform etc is preferred i would be more helpful in testing. i wouldn't have any mental "hangups" to using the product and could give it the "average joe" test for user freindless etc just pm me when you are ready to ship me one for testing Hymee

p.s. i could also probably do a story on it for RXTuner if that would sway you i have one under my belt already, am researching a 2nd and am seeking new story ideas
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Zoom, you need to update your tag line to "super-moderator-tester-editor-driver"

Windows is the preferred here in Washington State

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there's not enough space up there for all of that
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Just came upon this thread. I am interested in either version (windows or PPC) of this software.

I would prefer PPC, as I could hide a PPC somewhere in my car and use it to collect a data log to a flash card, for further analysis, later.

What is the connector you guys are using and for which PPC model is it suitable?
Old 10-01-2004, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by moatz
What is the connector you guys are using and for which PPC model is it suitable?
You are not the first to ask, but this is the first time I have had much of a chance to give a detailed answer.

Our diagnostic interface will present itself as a male DB9 connector. To connect to a laptop with a serial "COM" port, you need a "crossed" DB9-DB9 (female-female) cable. These are often called "data transfer" or "null modem" cables. I have an off-the shelf "Belkin" brand part of which I can supply the part number.

For a laptop without a serial port, you need a USB - Serial adaptor. I have tested a number of units. Not all work. I have found a unit supplied by an international company that I recommend as "Hymee Approved", and one of these is already out in the field. You need to same serial cable as mentioned above.

For a PocketPC / XDA, since our unit presents itself as a standard DB9 serial connector, you need an appropriate serial cable for the unit you have. These are very model specific. These units normally present as a female DB9 connector, ready to plug straight into the back of a PC's COM port. I need to check specifically, but I am tending to think that since the serial cable to the PPC is already "crossed", then the cable will be able to plug straight into the PPC. But I need to check. Otherwise a null-modem will need to be employed.

Due to the far range of options, we will not be supplying a serial cable to go between our interface and the computer. We will however publish recommended part numbers. What we will provide will include the interface unit, and the correct cable meeting to plug into the vehicles ODBII port.

I hope that adequatley answers your questions.

Cheers,
Hymee.

BTW - It also works on a Mazda 6. It should work on a Mazda 3 as well, and any other vehicle with a CAN-bus conforming to the ISO spec.
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I just got a shop manual for my 8, and it has at the beginning of each subsystem a break down of trouble shooting procedures based on some diagnostic codes. Will these codes be readable with this device?

Also, I'm curious, is this mostly a software solution or are you putting together special hardware for connecting to the "ODBII diagnostic port"?

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Old 10-01-2004, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ninja
I just got a shop manual for my 8, and it has at the beginning of each subsystem a break down of trouble shooting procedures based on some diagnostic codes. Will these codes be readable with this device?

Also, I'm curious, is this mostly a software solution or are you putting together special hardware for connecting to the "ODBII diagnostic port"?

Thanks,
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DTC can be read and cleared with this product.

This is a hardware and software solution. You need the hardware to communicate with the CAN bus onboard the car. Normal PCs / laptops / pocket PC's / Palms / etc. do not have a built-in CAN (ISO 15364) compliant interface.

So we will provide:
  1. A cable with an ODBII connector at one end to plug into the car. The other end plugs into (2) below.
  2. A small black box that has a connector for (1), and a std DB9 male connector to connect to the RS232 serial (COM) interface of the computer. This small black box has a bunch of circuitry & IC's to do the job of a CAN bus <-> Serial interface.
  3. Software to do a whole bunch of things. The entry level software will provide:
    • Real time Digital Dashboard
    • Logging for detailed off-line analysis
    • Reading / Clearing Diagnostic Trouble Codes
    • Reading and displaying the VIN
    • Reading and displaying the current PCM calibration (i.e. flash) version.

The Digital Dashboard and logging will be able to display / log any of the ton of parameters that are logged by the on-board diagnostics.

Then we plan a range of more expensive software solutions to perform more tasks that are more related to re-flashing with factory calibrations, and ultimately provide a reprogramming / tuning tool. These additional solutions will all use the common piece of hardware that comes with the entry-level unit.

Cheers,
Hymee.

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Old 10-02-2004, 01:10 PM
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Hymee,

My hat is off to you. This sounds like a smoken solution. I'm very interested in something like this. Especially if you grow it into something that can log the present M flash configuration and re-load it after trying other things. Keep up the good work.
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Hymee, make sure you can monitor the trailing timing as well as the leading.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Hymee, make sure you can monitor the trailing timing as well as the leading.
It is a sad fact the of all the PID's exposed through the ODBII specification, there is no concept of leading/training spark, hence they are not currently available. It does only cover "Ignition Advance". To my horror, the spec does not specify knock retard either!!!

However, there is part of the ODBII specification that mentions "Manufacturer Specific PIDS". If we can get a spec of those from Mazda, then those other "hidden" things might be available.

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Would it clear Dave's CEL he is getting?

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Old 10-07-2004, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Would it clear Dave's CEL he is getting?

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=112
It will clear the MIL. But it another matter entirely if the PCM detects a problem with something and throws it again, and again, and again. A bit like replacing a fuse a number of times - there is something wrong that needs to be investigated.

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Hymee,

After evaluating the current development software, I have a few questions.

Will it be possible to select a trigger channel and define a threshold value for this trigger, for the logger function?

Also, will the "PC" dashboard be user-definable?

I was surprised of the number of functiunalities already available on the development version of the software! Very promising!
Old 10-14-2004, 06:04 PM
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Rasputin,

I dont know, but your writing style seems really like someone else who used to frequent this place. It might just be nothing.

The current direction I am taking with the digital dashboard it to provide 6 gauges, and allow the user to drag-and-drop the available parameters from a list onto a gauge. Would that be cool enough?

Regards "Trigger function". Well I suppose just about anything is possible. We need to precisely understand the required functionality/workflow/outcome, and then we should be able to cater for it.

Thanks heaps for your positive feedback!

Cheers,
Hymee.
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Hymee take some pictures of some random stuff you threw on the workbench so that we may be amused! People love pictures.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
actually since i am not in the computer field and have no training and dont have any idea which language, platform etc is preferred i would be more helpful in testing. i wouldn't have any mental "hangups" to using the product and could give it the "average joe" test for user freindless etc just pm me when you are ready to ship me one for testing Hymee

p.s. i could also probably do a story on it for RXTuner if that would sway you i have one under my belt already, am researching a 2nd and am seeking new story ideas
Yeah - I will take you up on that.

Cheers,
Hymee.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Hymee take some pictures of some random stuff you threw on the workbench so that we may be amused! People love pictures.
Was the ones I posted not enough to get the juices flowing?

Cheers,
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That was last month. This is a new month. Actually I was being sarcastic and hoping that you would literally just post pictures of a dirty workbench just for the fun of it. Like I said, people like pictures.
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ROFL! Ok I get ya. Sorry - I must have been under the pump, and my usual humour cells were not active.

So I guess a picture of me relaxing by the pool would not go down all that well?

Cheers,
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Hi Hymee, I'm from Singapore and is having a really BIG problem right now. My 8 died on me on 7th Sep. The CEL came on together with the DSC. At the same time, I am getting no response at all from my throttle. The RPMs r around 1800 during idling n doesnt changed even when i floored the accelerator. Mine's an auto, JDM specs and is a grey model as the official agent here in SIN does not bring in the auto. The ECU has been send back twice to Japan for upgrading and each time the problem cannot be solved. When an ECU from another 8 is put into my car, everything works fine again. I am really at wits end now as my car has been immobolise for 6 weeks already at the workshop. Please help me. BTW, there are no CAT tools here to scan the ECU at all and so I am writing to you to see what I should do. Many thanks in advance.
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Does your software work with other CAN->RS232 boxes (like the CanScan from Harrison) or just yours?
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The initial version will work with hardware supplied by Hymee. We're considering support for other devices such as the CanScan for a future release, but I can't make any promises for this. It may not be possible to supply all the functionality for other devices that we can for the Hymee hardware.

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Originally Posted by sco
The initial version will work with hardware supplied by Hymee. We're considering support for other devices such as the CanScan for a future release, but I can't make any promises for this. It may not be possible to supply all the functionality for other devices that we can for the Hymee hardware.
Glad you guys are thinking about it... I'm not likely to buy another scan tool, but I'd be willing to buy your software to run with mine (CanScan), since I've been too lazy to program against it myself : ).
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Originally Posted by Rasputin
Hymee,

After evaluating the current development software, I have a few questions.

Will it be possible to select a trigger channel and define a threshold value for this trigger, for the logger function?

Also, will the "PC" dashboard be user-definable?

I was surprised of the number of functiunalities already available on the development version of the software! Very promising!
Triggering start and stop of logging will be in the initial release.

The gauge displays will be configurable e.g. to use a dial or a numeric readout.


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