Sneek Peak of new Hymee Enhanced Product
07-12-2005, 05:36 AM
#651
New Member
Why do you want to log.. while the car is disconnected to the laptop.
Oh i guess you want to change the gauges without the PCM being switched on... that make sense :p
Oh i guess you want to change the gauges without the PCM being switched on... that make sense :p
07-12-2005, 06:16 AM
#652
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've been thinking about that. The challenge is that we query the vehicle to see what parameters are supported (what I call the vehicle capabilities). I'll look into some solutions - maybe we can cache the last set of vehicle capabilities so you can do some preparation offline.
In the meantime there are a few things you can do to make life a little easier:
1. Save your gauge configuration (using File|Save) so you can reload something preconfigured with File|Load at a later date.
2. There is nothing stopping you turning the key to ON (not starting the vehicle) then do a Connect in sCANalyser and then turning the key to off and do your setup, then start and go. sCANalyser will handle this just fine.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll publish some plans and an update on where things are at in the next few days. I'll give you a bit of a hint... starting this week sco is working on sCANalyser pretty much full time.
In the meantime there are a few things you can do to make life a little easier:
1. Save your gauge configuration (using File|Save) so you can reload something preconfigured with File|Load at a later date.
2. There is nothing stopping you turning the key to ON (not starting the vehicle) then do a Connect in sCANalyser and then turning the key to off and do your setup, then start and go. sCANalyser will handle this just fine.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll publish some plans and an update on where things are at in the next few days. I'll give you a bit of a hint... starting this week sco is working on sCANalyser pretty much full time.
07-12-2005, 06:31 AM
#653
Shifty Bastard.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 4,835
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
VIN JM1FE173140127589 VIN Status 5 - RDR-VIN
Model / Year RX8 6P / 2004 Country US - UNITED STATES O Warranty Start Date
06/24/2005
Exterior Color 27B - WINNING BLUE Retail Dealer 51460 State NJ
Dealer 51460 State NJ
Retail Date 06/24/2005
Interior Color F3 - BLACK Wholesale Demo Date
Engine No 13B 458796 Engine ER - ROTARY RENESIS(2R) Assembly Date 12/02/2003
Transmission T9 - 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANS Drive REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Emissions C - CALIFORNIA EMISSION
Key Code xxxxxx
POE NK - PORT JERSEY CITY, NJ IP NK - PORT JERSEY CITY, NJ
Accessories AAF - POLISHED FRONT ROTARY ACCENT AAR - POLISHED REAR ROTARY ACCENT
ADD - FRONT AIR DAM CDC - IN-DASH 6-DISC CD CHANGER
CGN - CARGO NET DT1 - FAUX LEATHER DOOR TRIM
FLM - CARPET FLOOR MATS FL2 - FOG LAMPS
FOL - PORTFOLIO HL1 - XENON HEADLIGHTS
HM1 - HEATED MIRRORS LS1 - LEATHER SEATING SURFACES
MC2 - AUTO DAY/NIGHT MIRROR W/HOMELI MR1 - MOONROOF
PW4 - HEATED SEATS PW6 - PWR SEATS/6 WAY DRVR/LUMBAR
RAF - REAR AERO FLARES RA3 - PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
SIL - SIDE AERO FLARES STR
TC2 - DSC WITH TRACTION CONTROL WLK
1GT - GRAND TOURING PKG M/T 2AP - APPEARANCE PACKAGE
2RP - ROTARY ACCENT PACKAGE -
Model / Year RX8 6P / 2004 Country US - UNITED STATES O Warranty Start Date
06/24/2005
Exterior Color 27B - WINNING BLUE Retail Dealer 51460 State NJ
Dealer 51460 State NJ
Retail Date 06/24/2005
Interior Color F3 - BLACK Wholesale Demo Date
Engine No 13B 458796 Engine ER - ROTARY RENESIS(2R) Assembly Date 12/02/2003
Transmission T9 - 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANS Drive REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Emissions C - CALIFORNIA EMISSION
Key Code xxxxxx
POE NK - PORT JERSEY CITY, NJ IP NK - PORT JERSEY CITY, NJ
Accessories AAF - POLISHED FRONT ROTARY ACCENT AAR - POLISHED REAR ROTARY ACCENT
ADD - FRONT AIR DAM CDC - IN-DASH 6-DISC CD CHANGER
CGN - CARGO NET DT1 - FAUX LEATHER DOOR TRIM
FLM - CARPET FLOOR MATS FL2 - FOG LAMPS
FOL - PORTFOLIO HL1 - XENON HEADLIGHTS
HM1 - HEATED MIRRORS LS1 - LEATHER SEATING SURFACES
MC2 - AUTO DAY/NIGHT MIRROR W/HOMELI MR1 - MOONROOF
PW4 - HEATED SEATS PW6 - PWR SEATS/6 WAY DRVR/LUMBAR
RAF - REAR AERO FLARES RA3 - PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
SIL - SIDE AERO FLARES STR
TC2 - DSC WITH TRACTION CONTROL WLK
1GT - GRAND TOURING PKG M/T 2AP - APPEARANCE PACKAGE
2RP - ROTARY ACCENT PACKAGE -
Gomez.
07-12-2005, 06:46 AM
#654
When the car makes the connection, the available "gauges" are read from the PCM, and only those are made available to the sCANalyser user. The engine doesn't need to be running, just the ignition on. But I understand your requirement.
Cheers,
Hymee.
Cheers,
Hymee.
07-19-2005, 01:38 AM
#655
Registered User
I know i will get bashed for this probably but i have searched for two nights and cannot find it! I saw a thread or a site that told me how to make the charts, (and maybe something about a/f correction if needed with hymees) and now I can not find it anywhere. I did one set of charts before i was turboed about two months ago and have forgotten how to handle the excel pivot table/chart. PLEASE someone help me 
07-19-2005, 02:30 AM
#656
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
zoom zoom 8... There is a section on this in the back of the sCANalyser manual.
Now with regards to AFR correction, there is no need to do this. sCANalyser reports the data from the Wideband O2 sensor as provided by the PCM. Our testing has shown this to be accurate in comparison to a Motec O2 sensor. We recommend using Lambda (called Equivalence Ratio in sCANalyser as that is what it is called in the OBD specification), not AFR - to use AFR you have to know the stoichiometric ratio of your fuel. With lambda you don't need to know what the stoich ratio is - 1.0 lambda is always stoich.
If you want to read some more about this it's being discussed at the moment here: https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...9&postcount=18
Now with regards to AFR correction, there is no need to do this. sCANalyser reports the data from the Wideband O2 sensor as provided by the PCM. Our testing has shown this to be accurate in comparison to a Motec O2 sensor. We recommend using Lambda (called Equivalence Ratio in sCANalyser as that is what it is called in the OBD specification), not AFR - to use AFR you have to know the stoichiometric ratio of your fuel. With lambda you don't need to know what the stoich ratio is - 1.0 lambda is always stoich.
If you want to read some more about this it's being discussed at the moment here: https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...9&postcount=18
Last edited by sco; 07-19-2005 at 03:58 AM.
07-19-2005, 08:56 PM
#658
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Zaku-8 -- I'm working on that right at the moment. I'm doing a bunch of changes to the core of sCANalyser (all the behind the scenes stuff you don't see - kind of like the gears in a traditional watch) to enable a bunch of new cool features, including accessing all the proprietary data. The aim is to be able to get proprietary data and standard data on the gauges at the same time... e.g. so you could tune using O2 readings, MAF, Timing Advance, Throttle Position and Knock Retard. These changes will be made available to existing customers at no charge.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a car that has TPMS, so I'll be releasing a beta for you guys to try and check it works OK.
I need to write up a post on what we're up to.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a car that has TPMS, so I'll be releasing a beta for you guys to try and check it works OK.
I need to write up a post on what we're up to.
that whip hurts! 
07-20-2005, 01:24 PM
#661
Humpin legs and takin nam
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Clearwater, Fl
Posts: 2,433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Question,
Does this product read all the DTC's?? I have Canscan and cannot read certain DTC's associated with aspects of the car other than MIL indicator. (I know I have DTC's)
Does this product read all the DTC's?? I have Canscan and cannot read certain DTC's associated with aspects of the car other than MIL indicator. (I know I have DTC's)
07-20-2005, 10:22 PM
#662
Registered User
Hey guys, trying to graph my a/f throughout the rpm range but I cannot get the rpm to just be represented by the rpm number and the a/f to be the only line in the chart. Can someone take a look at my chart and let me know what to do to get rid of the rpm line and just have the rpm numbers on the left hand side? Thanks
chris
chris
07-21-2005, 10:50 AM
#663
Originally Posted by zoomzoom_8
Hey guys, trying to graph my a/f throughout the rpm range but I cannot get the rpm to just be represented by the rpm number and the a/f to be the only line in the chart. Can someone take a look at my chart and let me know what to do to get rid of the rpm line and just have the rpm numbers on the left hand side? Thanks
chris
chris
07-21-2005, 11:30 AM
#664
Administrator
Originally Posted by guy321
Question,
Does this product read all the DTC's?? I have Canscan and cannot read certain DTC's associated with aspects of the car other than MIL indicator. (I know I have DTC's)
Does this product read all the DTC's?? I have Canscan and cannot read certain DTC's associated with aspects of the car other than MIL indicator. (I know I have DTC's)
07-21-2005, 11:36 AM
#665
Administrator
wouldnt you rather have rpm at the bottm and AF on the left? and then not graph the time.
i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it
i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it
07-21-2005, 12:23 PM
#668
Originally Posted by zoom44
see thats what im saying that is graphing AF over time and RPM over time but not AF over RPM- at least it is hard to read AF over RPM. what is your AF at 6000 rpm?
Image is easier to read
Last edited by Nemesis8; 07-21-2005 at 12:25 PM.
07-21-2005, 12:42 PM
#669
Originally Posted by zoom44
i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it
07-21-2005, 06:12 PM
#670
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by guy321
Question,
Does this product read all the DTC's?? I have Canscan and cannot read certain DTC's associated with aspects of the car other than MIL indicator. (I know I have DTC's)
Does this product read all the DTC's?? I have Canscan and cannot read certain DTC's associated with aspects of the car other than MIL indicator. (I know I have DTC's)
07-21-2005, 06:17 PM
#671
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by zoom44
wouldnt you rather have rpm at the bottm and AF on the left? and then not graph the time.
i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it
i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it
There are some other cool features I've got planned to help people doing tuning and who want to understand the impact of modifications they're making... I don't want to much say for competitive reasons because I think some of them are pretty innovative.
07-22-2005, 12:14 AM
#673
Registered User
Originally Posted by zoom44
wouldnt you rather have rpm at the bottm and AF on the left? and then not graph the time.
i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it
i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it
07-22-2005, 07:09 AM
#674
Registered
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 3,754
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by zoom44
i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it
You can also convert rpms and time or speed and time and a bunch of other correction factors to get hp and torque the way it would be represented on a chassis dyno - that seems to require alot of data smoothing though (well at least with the oldschool canscan it did - perhaps the scanalyzer would be better... be willing to try it if someone would like to give me a file of rpms and time for a single gear pull and an approx temperature when you did it). I used this method along with an accelerometer extensively when i was tuning my CZ.
07-24-2005, 04:55 PM
#675
Administrator
Originally Posted by Nemesis8
I'm still learning pivot table in Excel, so here is the raw data from the log on both sides of 6,000 RPM. Looks like 12.5 or 12.6 AFR if I use 14.64 as stoich.
Image is easier to read
Image is easier to read