Warranty History_Engine,Short A/T
05-05-2012 | 12:06 PM
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jimtorr
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Warranty History_Engine,Short A/T
I recently bought a 2004 RX-8 GT. Yesterday I went to the local dealer and got the warranty history for the car.
Twice in 2011 an "Engine,Short A/T", PNMC N3H202200 was applied. In May is was associated with an engine / power train / computer module test, and in December it was associated with a battery / charging system test.
After research, the only reference to the part number I found on the forum referred to an ECU flash N. The dealer service writer told me an "Engine,Short A/T" was a set of spark plug wires. The only thing I can find on the internet appears to indicate that part number N3H20 is in the electrical category.
Any ideas?
Twice in 2011 an "Engine,Short A/T", PNMC N3H202200 was applied. In May is was associated with an engine / power train / computer module test, and in December it was associated with a battery / charging system test.
After research, the only reference to the part number I found on the forum referred to an ECU flash N. The dealer service writer told me an "Engine,Short A/T" was a set of spark plug wires. The only thing I can find on the internet appears to indicate that part number N3H20 is in the electrical category.
Any ideas?
05-05-2012 | 01:31 PM
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N3H2-02-200 is the original part number for an A/T Engine Short Block
The number superseded a few times, now unless you specially request it all they will sell you is a Remanufactured Engine.
Whoever told you (A MAzda Tech?) that it's spark plug wires should be fired and banned from working on cars for the rest of his/her life.
The number superseded a few times, now unless you specially request it all they will sell you is a Remanufactured Engine.
Whoever told you (A MAzda Tech?) that it's spark plug wires should be fired and banned from working on cars for the rest of his/her life.
05-05-2012 | 02:53 PM
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N3H2-02-200 is the original part number for an A/T Engine Short Block....The number superseded a few times, now unless you specially request it all they will sell you is a Remanufactured Engine.....Whoever told you (A MAzda Tech?) that it's spark plug wires should be fired and banned from working on cars for the rest of his/her life.
From the Warranty History Report, the work was done under warranty. Twice, in 5/2011 and 12/2011. The guy who told me it was spark plug wires was the guy who printed the warranty history for me, while standing at the dealer service desk. I figured he was full of it. He also quoted me a price of $300 for a compression check, with no hesitation at all.
There's another Mazda dealer in the area, I'll try them.
05-06-2012 | 06:07 AM
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Hang on a second...
A Mazda Dealer when he does a Warranty Claim has to tell Mazda (part of the form/data filling out) what is the MAIN CAUSE of the issue, IF they believe it is Engine....then they have to put in the Part Number (for Engine), it has no correspondence to what was actually renewed, just what the Dealer believes is the main cause...then he may list the actual parts that were renewed, like Plug Leads or a Re-flash, or....
Factually if it was a Re-flash I would have thought the PCM (ECU) Part Number would be the MAIN CAUSE Part #.
Take a look at a few TSB's where warrant-able Parts are replaced, 9 times out of 10 the Bulletin will show a MAIN CAUSE Part Number...and then the Parts to be renewed.
I was also a warranty officer for Mazda Dealer a long time ago.
A Mazda Dealer when he does a Warranty Claim has to tell Mazda (part of the form/data filling out) what is the MAIN CAUSE of the issue, IF they believe it is Engine....then they have to put in the Part Number (for Engine), it has no correspondence to what was actually renewed, just what the Dealer believes is the main cause...then he may list the actual parts that were renewed, like Plug Leads or a Re-flash, or....
Factually if it was a Re-flash I would have thought the PCM (ECU) Part Number would be the MAIN CAUSE Part #.
Take a look at a few TSB's where warrant-able Parts are replaced, 9 times out of 10 the Bulletin will show a MAIN CAUSE Part Number...and then the Parts to be renewed.
I was also a warranty officer for Mazda Dealer a long time ago.
05-06-2012 | 08:34 AM
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Oh, great, does that mean that I have an automatic transmission engine to go with my manual transmission? Any issues with that, I wonder?
From the Warranty History Report, the work was done under warranty. Twice, in 5/2011 and 12/2011. The guy who told me it was spark plug wires was the guy who printed the warranty history for me, while standing at the dealer service desk. I figured he was full of it. He also quoted me a price of $300 for a compression check, with no hesitation at all.
There's another Mazda dealer in the area, I'll try them.
From the Warranty History Report, the work was done under warranty. Twice, in 5/2011 and 12/2011. The guy who told me it was spark plug wires was the guy who printed the warranty history for me, while standing at the dealer service desk. I figured he was full of it. He also quoted me a price of $300 for a compression check, with no hesitation at all.
There's another Mazda dealer in the area, I'll try them.
and come down to NYC, I do ur compression test for 30 bux. Oh yes I have Mazda Compression Tester, and yes I'm dead serious
300 to do a compression test is just highway robbery, or worst
2 Engine replacement in just a few months? something fishy is going on, probably bad apple? or maybe they really did got an wrong engine, installed it (wtF ? are they blind?) somehow and the last owner came back like WTF ITS ******* SLOW AFTER 6-7K RPM!
or, maybe they just did an ECU update and send it off, but twice? O_O I don't know, weird dealer lol (fking garbage dealer)
Last edited by nycgps; 05-06-2012 at 08:38 AM.
05-06-2012 | 02:51 PM
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..Yeah, I was going to add the "system" never used to recognize main cause part number(s) in error, it may (warranty claim ) bounce back for adjustment...it may not to.
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HUH...Jackson did you read what I originally said?...where does it say that his engine was replaced twice....??? it does not.
THE Part # is listed as Main Cause, NOT the Parts Replaced...
The car came in twice or has a claim made to it in 5/2011 and 12/2011.
As I see it one set or Plug Wires renewed...and perhaps a Re-Flash.
There is nothing or anything fishy?...
YES, the Dealer got the Main Cause part number wrong, no big deal.
OP, NO you do not have the WRONG Engine in your car...
...............................................
HUH...Jackson did you read what I originally said?...where does it say that his engine was replaced twice....??? it does not.
THE Part # is listed as Main Cause, NOT the Parts Replaced...
The car came in twice or has a claim made to it in 5/2011 and 12/2011.
As I see it one set or Plug Wires renewed...and perhaps a Re-Flash.
There is nothing or anything fishy?...
YES, the Dealer got the Main Cause part number wrong, no big deal.
OP, NO you do not have the WRONG Engine in your car...
05-06-2012 | 02:59 PM
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Another example..
Say a Diff Pinion SEAL leaks under Mazda warranty...
The Dealer will list the complete Differential Assembly as the MAIN CAUSE...RS08-27-100H
The Part(s) replaced is a Diff Pinion Seal...RA03-27-165, not the complete Diff.
Dealer gets paid the labor to replace seal and for the seal part by Mazda.
Say a Diff Pinion SEAL leaks under Mazda warranty...
The Dealer will list the complete Differential Assembly as the MAIN CAUSE...RS08-27-100H
The Part(s) replaced is a Diff Pinion Seal...RA03-27-165, not the complete Diff.
Dealer gets paid the labor to replace seal and for the seal part by Mazda.
05-06-2012 | 03:46 PM
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..Yeah, I was going to add the "system" never used to recognize main cause part number(s) in error, it may (warranty claim ) bounce back for adjustment...it may not to.
...............................................
HUH...Jackson did you read what I originally said?...where does it say that his engine was replaced twice....??? it does not.
THE Part # is listed as Main Cause, NOT the Parts Replaced...
The car came in twice or has a claim made to it in 5/2011 and 12/2011.
As I see it one set or Plug Wires renewed...and perhaps a Re-Flash.
There is nothing or anything fishy?...
YES, the Dealer got the Main Cause part number wrong, no big deal.
OP, NO you do not have the WRONG Engine in your car...
...............................................
HUH...Jackson did you read what I originally said?...where does it say that his engine was replaced twice....??? it does not.
THE Part # is listed as Main Cause, NOT the Parts Replaced...
The car came in twice or has a claim made to it in 5/2011 and 12/2011.
As I see it one set or Plug Wires renewed...and perhaps a Re-Flash.
There is nothing or anything fishy?...
YES, the Dealer got the Main Cause part number wrong, no big deal.
OP, NO you do not have the WRONG Engine in your car...
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