Wait so I'm confused, I have to take my bracket off the car and send it to BHR, they weld it, and then they send it back to me? Isn't that a little inconvenient?
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
(Post 2567110)
Wait so I'm confused, I have to take my bracket off the car and send it to BHR, they weld it, and then they send it back to me? Isn't that a little inconvenient?
A new one comes to you first and then you return your old one to BHR. |
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 2567130)
No.
A new one comes to you first and then you return your old one to BHR. |
Or... you can have a local shop weld your old one up for $30-$50 (in my case free) and order the bracket from Mazsport for $130 +/-.
... just offering an alternative guys! Don't want it to be one sided here. |
Originally Posted by NoOdLe BoY
(Post 2566229)
My clutch started squeakin too maybe 2 months ago or more. I guess im the next one buyin the mazsport bracket. Quick question though, would it be better if I were to get a new oem clutch bracket and then install the mazsport bracket? Or would it have no difference puttin the bracket onto my current squeaking one? Thanx in advance
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Ray, when i go home from Hondo for all the work.... i'm gonna send you my clutch bracket... assuming it hasnt broken on my mother already at that point...
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2566616)
Then why do you suppose that Mazsport now offers a welding service whereas BHR has always welded ours?
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2567366)
I feel the same way, Don, as there are thousands of brackets that will need fixing so there is plenty of work to go around. Ain't the free-market a wonderful concept?;)
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Yep, very true. I wonder if someone, somewhere, will start selling it as part of the clutch job?:icon_no2:
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I dont know if my clutch assembly has issues, is there an easy way for a newb like me to do a visual? How much is the BHR solution as well?
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My symptoms before I knew what was going on:
1. Was hard to get into 3 gear without a little grind (not sure why just 3rd) 2. Clutch seemed to not be as responsive when pushing in 3. Foot almost to the floor before fully engaging 4. SNAP! (your toast) I was lucky enough to be less than 1/2 mile to my house so I had to start the car in 1st gear and drive home without shifting. OUR OEM CLUTCH IS A PIECE OF S#1T! Both Charles and Scott have good remedies but the real issue is that MAZDA needs to do something about it and the only way Mazda will do anything is if we get off of our asses and do what nycgps is telling us to do. Tell us again nycgps! |
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2567446)
How funny that Mazda and/or the dealer network is telling people the broken pedal assemblies are "normal" as I don't see in the owner's manual at what mileage we should be changing these things out. I see filters, fluids, tire rotation, but no clutch pedal assembly replacement.
Cuz the Clutch pedal on my Honda FIT has Much better construction than the PoS Mazda ... at least I cant move it left & right, no squeaking, etc. *sigh* and it cost nearly 1/2 the price of the rx-8. what the hell ... maybe I should take a picture of it. shame on Mazda on this one. |
This should be repeated on every page of this thread:
Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 2519309)
Im telling you guys who had a problem(or having a problem) with this clutch thing to REPORT this to NHTSA.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ |
NHTSA form
OK, I filed my complaint with NHTSA. Go to this link as it is a little more direct to the form: File a complaint/Defects & Recalls
I hope I did it right! This was the report I submitted. It's only the description field and not the whole report. The field converts everything to one long paragraph: Clutch assembly faulty design. While driving and shifting gears (manual transmission) the clutch pedal assembly snaps, resulting in the loss of ability to shift gears. After pulling over to the side of the road, the car had to be started in 1st gear to drive to safety. The thin metal tears away from around one of the bolts that holds the assembly to the firewall. This is happening on other RX-8's of people I associate with to the point that welding up the old bracket is becoming common. Mazda has not come up with a stronger assembly since they introduced the RX-8 in 2004. The alternatives to correct the issue (out of warranty) is to: (A) Purchase a new one from Mazda. (B) Have your old assembly welded or purchase a remanufactured welded one. (C) Purchase a bracket that adds support to the assembly I did both B & C, Welded and added support. To search their database: Search for Complaints Choose "Vehicle" then click "Search Selected Type" |
How about use Sevenstock to bring more awareness?
Don't mean it as shout it out while the guests are on stage and try to corner Mazda type of deal, that would be rude. But... since fellow owners have some chance to walk around and talk to other owners, may be it should be brought to their attention and ask see if they have the same issue and let them know that we are trying to get more people who do have the same issue to report this to NHTSA. |
It's hard to understand why Mazda is not recalling cars immediately to fix this problem before there is a serious accident as a result of this clutch failure. The prior knowledge provided via this thread and the official complaints would make their case almost indefensible and could result in huge payouts in damage claims.
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A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one. |
Originally Posted by Delmeister
(Post 2568286)
It's hard to understand why Mazda is not recalling cars immediately to fix this problem before there is a serious accident as a result of this clutch failure. The prior knowledge provided via this thread and the official complaints would make their case almost indefensible and could result in huge payouts in damage claims.
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anyone know how many MT rx8s have been sold so far?
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Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 2568846)
why? because if they do this is going to be a massive recall, cuz it means that they have to recall every single Manual transmission Rx-8 back, replace the faulty part + labor. thats massive amount of money.
Yeah, it sucks giant monkey ballz believe me. I wasn't happy about choking up the cash for the new brakcet but it made enough difference in my pedal feel it was worth the cash. Not to mention if I snapped my pedal I'd be wishing I had taken care of it before hand. |
thats what they said to me
"customer abuse" wtf.... |
*sigh*
even stock car breaks ... they still gonna claim its customer abuse ... Mazda ... what the HELL !!! SERIOUSLY !!!!!!!!!!!! Do you want someone to die before you do anything about it ? If thats your company's policy, I really really REALLY have to re-consider b4 I buy another Mazda Vehicle. |
f*k it!!!... my RX-8's (which I bought used 2 weeks ago) clutch pedal started to squek at me this morning !!!... after reading this thread... omg!!!
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Originally Posted by vX-2
(Post 2570424)
f*k it!!!... my RX-8's (which I bought used 2 weeks ago) clutch pedal started to squek at me this morning !!!... after reading this thread... omg!!!
There is a Mazda TSB offering one explaination. MT - UNUSUAL NOISE WHEN CLUTCH PEDAL IS DEPRESSED http://www.finishlineperformance.com...11-06-1724.pdf |
Originally Posted by alnielsen
(Post 2570431)
That can be explained by other things.
There is a Mazda TSB offering one explaination. MT - UNUSUAL NOISE WHEN CLUTCH PEDAL IS DEPRESSED http://www.finishlineperformance.com...11-06-1724.pdf But, when I asked them to have a look into it, they were like, "clutch braket"?? Specifically, what r you concerned, sir? I'm guessing I was too specific, so I told them the clutch gave me a squeking sound this morning when I press on the clutch pedal. The service advisor said, 'ok, will do' :Eyecrazy: :Eyecrazy: |
Originally Posted by alnielsen
(Post 2570431)
That can be explained by other things.
There is a Mazda TSB offering one explaination. MT - UNUSUAL NOISE WHEN CLUTCH PEDAL IS DEPRESSED http://www.finishlineperformance.com...11-06-1724.pdf |
there has been discussion that the bracket is recieving a differant leverage than what it was designed for.
The size of the person changes the angle and leverage on the pedal. You see, not everyone has this problem. If you took a poll I bet you would see lees than ten. |
Well damn! Size DOES matter! :)
1. SilverEIGHT - 5'10", 185lbs, Drive with right knee almost touching the dash. |
Well luckly for me, the local Mazda dealer is going to warranty the pedal. I order the mazsport reinforcement to make sure this doesn't happen again though. Hope you guys have better luck with your dealerships
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2572835)
IMO, most of Mazda's "fixes" are Band-Aids for more important problems. Those idiots at Mazda are chasing their tails and covering stuff up. I didn't used to be so cynical until recently...........
I tend to study everything to death. It's the reason it takes me so long to complete a project. |
Originally Posted by renesisjim
(Post 2572739)
Well luckly for me, the local Mazda dealer is going to warranty the pedal. I order the mazsport reinforcement to make sure this doesn't happen again though. Hope you guys have better luck with your dealerships
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/new-product-mazsport-clutch-support-bracket-149245/ |
i think it is kind of simple. looking at this bracket i do think if people would put straight pressure---pushing straight up and down---then it would be weak but ok.
trouble is most people do not do that. then over time a weakness developes and then it just gets worst. it may be a good safety feature but it doesnt work well. oldragger |
well, chalk up another victim to the curse of the clutch bracket. I got a call last night from a buddy of mine Newcastle stating that his had snapped. I'm just thankful this didn't happen while we were all out in Vegas last weekend or as we were all trying to pass that damn Dodge Ram on the mountain road. That would have been B A D ! ! ! :eek:
BHR reinforced bracket has been ordered. :rock: |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 2596031)
well, chalk up another victim to the curse of the clutch bracket. I got a call last night from a buddy of mine Newcastle stating that his had snapped. I'm just thankful this didn't happen while we were all out in Vegas last weekend or as we were all trying to pass that damn Dodge Ram on the mountain road. That would have been B A D ! ! ! :eek:
BHR reinforced bracket has been ordered. :rock: |
way ahead of ya bro. He a member on here, just doesn't post much so I sent him the link.
Ray: I'll make sure that pedal gets out to you ASAP. Thanks for sending that pedal out so quickly. |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 2596031)
well, chalk up another victim to the curse of the clutch bracket. I got a call last night from a buddy of mine Newcastle stating that his had snapped. I'm just thankful this didn't happen while we were all out in Vegas last weekend or as we were all trying to pass that damn Dodge Ram on the mountain road. That would have been B A D ! ! ! :eek:
BHR reinforced bracket has been ordered. :rock:
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2596980)
...and one is shipping tomorrow morning. Please be sure Tim sends back that old one so we can keep the machine running smoothly.
Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 2597066)
maybe its time to tell your buddy to report his problem to NHTSA ? :aroused:
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Mazsport's kit is on back order...
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
(Post 2598405)
Mazmart's kit is on back order...
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you mean Mazsport
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner
(Post 2598414)
Mazmart or MazSport?
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Waaaaaaay back order.
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Originally Posted by LionZoo
(Post 2598405)
Mazsport's kit is on back order...
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Originally Posted by SilverEIGHT
(Post 2600144)
It's worth the wait.
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We filled the majority of orders last week guys and we will be caught up and in stock this week! We appreciate your business, Scott
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2598895)
BHR is still cranking out reinforced versions and has happy customers.
Here are some things to think about... BHR will NOT charge you until your item is ready and shipped BHR will NOT tell you an item is in stock when it's not BHR WILL work with you if there are any issues with installation or in rare instances a defective product. The biggest aspect is there is no need to take your assembly out and ship it to have the welding done and all while your RX8 sits disabled. BHR ships a newly welded assembly to you right away so you can quickly replace the defective one. BHR....or else!
Originally Posted by SilverEIGHT
(Post 2600144)
It's worth the wait.
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Has anyone checked the '09 RX8 to see if they redesigned this POS?
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2607876)
There is also no core charge because the RX8Club people have been 100% honest with me from Day One and I see no reason to assume otherwise for the future.
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FYI...the switches are $8.00 for the one and $25 for the other...and they are both quick release..ie no tools and about 2 minutes to replace both ;)
also all you need to start the car is a short piece of wire to jumper the clutch pedal down switch...... It will run funny when you have your foot on the clutch and the car is in gear...( hunting idle) but other than that it will get you where you want to go until the new switch is in |
Originally Posted by dannobre
(Post 2607962)
FYI...the switches are $8.00 for the one and $25 for the other...and they are both quick release..ie no tools and about 2 minutes to replace both ;)
also all you need to start the car is a short piece of wire to jumper the clutch pedal down switch...... It will run funny when you have your foot on the clutch and the car is in gear...( hunting idle) but other than that it will get you where you want to go until the new switch is in I know I can short the wire, but I prefer to keep it intact :) I need to get to Wayne to program a new key (cuz I have only 1 flip key and 1 valet, damn Manhattant Mazda never gave me the other flip key), and I want to do a compression test. Just so that I know what my engine is up to. Thx :) |
my clutch pedal snap too a couple of months ago but my warranty cover the whole thing even towed to the nearest mazda dealership.
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