Um, no.

 

x2, only a single reading per rotor and no RPM values, it's useless

sorry that you're getting the shaft, this situation sucks, do you hear MNAO; SUCKS!!!

and they wonder why RX-8 sales are dropping like a rock ...

 

If you decide to take it to a different dealer you should try to contact chrism on here. He has a very good relationship with a dealer in NJ and just had his transmission replaced and has helped out others in getting their cars fixed. He is a very nice guy.

 

I will contact chrism if needed, I see him every once in a while at meets on LI and the Rotorfest, he is a good guy, thanks.

 

At first I was shocked by this also, but in actuality, 11's are 2 (or 4) ranges COLDER plugs than stock.

 

11's are colder, not hotter .... sounds like you found two poor places to try and get your car worked on ...

 

If the initial dealership deemed your car is running fine and nothing is wrong then I would say they are done with their evaluation and you should be able to go anywhere you want to and get a second opinion.

Now, if they were in the middle of fixing the car then I could see where you would have to stay with them. Take it somewhere else.

 

Devious, the run around you are getting is not uncommon. See here - https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...7&page=1&pp=15 for my troubles. I still haven't had my issues addressed.

Apparently Mazda figures if they make you jump through enough hoops eventually you'll get tired and give up. My situation still has not been rectified.

As for a dealership service center that values customer service, check out Ramsey Mazda. Chrism is friendly with the service guys, so maybe you can PM him and let him know what's goin on.

If you want other opinions you can check here - https://www.rx8club.com/ne-rx-8-forum-29/good-bad-nj-dealer-service-centers-80414/

 

Thanks for the info, I'll check with chrism also if needed.

As for the plugs being colder, not hotter and the compression test which looks skeptical, remember I'm not a mechanic, far from it. So, some of the information being told to me could be lost in translation, this doesn't mean the tech I'm dealing with doesn't know what he is doing, it just means that I don't know A. how to explain what he is talking about, or B. I'm leaving things out that he told me.

The car goes in next week to Mazda for mounts, a Geico rep has contacted that dealer's service manager and will be there to over look a compression test done by All Star Mazda. I'll keep you updated.

 

Ok here is an update... oh and by the way I did have it wrong, Mazda put hotter plugs in, the rating was 6's all around and they opened the gap from 50 to 60 (not sure if I'm correct about the gap).

I've been getting the runaround for 2 months now about the pinging and now my gears are grinding from 1st to 2nd and from 4th to 5th. 5 times at 2 different dealers, I've left my car and been told that there is nothing wrong with it. I also understand that other RX8 owners are having the same issues in my area and getting the same runaround from Mazda. Anyway, finally I went for a ride with the tech and my father so there was another witness. The gears grinded and the tech tried to tell me that he heard nothing. Finally I got him to admit that he heard the grinding and the pinging in the engine. We went back to the dealer and the service manager told us that the tech said he heard "something". I explained that "something" is very open ended. He tried to give me a service receipt which stated that the tech could not duplicate the issue. I made the manager get the tech out of the garage to tell him he heard the grinding and pinging. Finally after arguing for a while the service manager said he would put on the receipt that the tech did in fact hear these noises. But, the compression test was still reading "normal" on the receipt so I refused to sign. The dealer refused to show me the PSI readings from each chamber and each rotor. He said if I paid 95.00 then I could have the results, so I agreed. He then explained that the print out would only state that the results were normal and met factory specs. I refused to pay or sign anything. They gave me a loaner car the other day and I'm not returning it until they resolve my issues. I have an appointment tomorrow with a field tech from corporate, but it seems as though they will shoot to void my warranty. The service manager explained that the drop in K&N intake filter and the Racinghart wheels could be the cause for my problems...bullshit!

I'd like to just sell the car and rid my burden from my life, but I cannot. I am taking a stand for all of the RX8 owners who have the same issues and have had Mazda blow them off about it. There is an obvious issue with some of these engines and transmissions; I'm not saying everyone has these issues. This is what I am doing, and I hope Mazda does read this.

I have already contacted the Attorney General of NY state, the Nassau County Legislature, Consumer affairs, News 12, and News 11 (help me Howard), and an ad will be published in Newsday eventually, showing my story. I also have one compression reading from an independent shop, and I'm going to get two others this weekend from 2 other shops. I will be building a case against Mazda and I intend to fully exploit them. If anyone is interested in a petition or has had the same issues then please email me, I'm prepared to start a case including everyone who has been bullshitted around by Mazda about these issues. P/M me if you are interested.

I know some of you may bash me or tell me this isn't the way to go about it. Too bad on Mazda I've had it up to here with playing by their rules. I've exhausted every avenue I could have to get this resolved in a friendly manner, it doesn't work. So, if putting Mazda on the news, writing letters, and contacting the government is what I need to do, then so be it.

 

If you're going to get additional compression tests, make sure it shows the compression relative to the RPM's. Without that it's not going to mean much. The problem is finding a compression tester that does that. The old rotary ones (analog) don't.

 

I'll make sure I request that when I get it done, thanks.

Also, does anyone know what compression readings should show on a car that has 48,000 miles?

 

Please feel free to use the data from my "Blown Motor" thread (copied link in to this thread back on April 16th). It will substantiate that a dealership can provide the information your requesting, its relevance, the testing tool options to assess same (old analog tester versus newer digital tester), etc.

GOOD LUCK!!!

 

I will thanks!

 

Any other words of advice for when I go to see the MNAO rep and field tech tomorrow? Anyone?

 

Yes, if its a MNAO rep ask him if he'll watch the mechanic along with you when he does the compression test. Tell them you will pay them up front in cash for the compression test.

Then you either eat your words or the problem will be seen and covered under warrenty (maybe). You see if there is indication you abuse the car and the compression is low warrenty probably won't kick in.

The fact that you have Geico is not a good indication your are a safe good driver.

That insurance is so expensive that only drunk drivers habitual speeders or accident prone people use it.

 

It looks like another dealership that I want to walk into someday and blatantly say I know more than they do about their own product. Of course that's the understatement of the millenium. It's another idiot trying to cover up his laziness with bs and lies. So typical of many dealers.

 

The fact that you have Geico is not a good indication your are a safe good driver.

That insurance is so expensive that only drunk drivers habitual speeders or accident prone people use it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the advice.

Actually that's the complete opposite. I have a perfect driving record, no tickets, no accidents, I'm in the perferred customer program at Geico, I get discounts because of the defensive courses I have completed. Also, I pay a little less than 1800 a year full coverage on the RX8 in New York, that is cheap.

Maybe they price differently from who you heard from.

 

One other question: what do I say if they tell me that the modified intake box, and the wheels are the cause and/or void my warranty? The intake box has a drop in K&N filter and a cut out see through rotor shaped window in the top. The wheels are 19" Racingharts.

 

dude if you want to get a new engine and are literate in the website building business, go get the domain names of the dealership that screwed you then find the names of the executives at NA mazda and make websites like www.longislandmazdasucks.com and www.johndoesucks.com and write an ellaborate write up on the site about how mazda is screwing you (make sure to include pics and the email address of all the mazda executives and dealerships that screwed you). Once all the websites have been uploaded send a link to all of mazda corporate and the dealerships alike and threaten to unleash the fury over the net of your story unless they make things right. Chances are youll get a call within 2 days from an upper level mazda executive that will sweet talk you and fix your car! or better yet let you trade yours in for a new car!

 

just keep a level and cool head tomorrow. you have been pushing up against the dealer all this time. you have a Mazda corporate rep coming and while not exactly on "your side" they will hopefully come at the issue with a professional "lets find out whats wrong" manner. secondly -dont worry about the wheels. the wheels having nothing to do with compression loss or pinging. its ludicrous to even bring it up. also it doesnt matter what filter you use- but if the MAF is screwed up you might have to pay to have it cleaned/replaced as the oil from oiled filters can effect them.

lastly the little window in the airbox can have no possible effect on gears or compression.

how do these people even begin to say it could with a straight face?

 

Thanks for all of the advice guys. Just an update, I went to the dealer and spoke with the corporate rep/field tech. They are opening up my tranny to look for damage, also they said that because of my clutch pedal being snapped last month that could be the cause of the grinding because the clutch isn't disengaging totally. I agreed that I could accept that as an answer to my problems... wait just got a call from the dealer, the front rotor is ok but the rear is low in compression by 36-40psi, they are replacing my engine, and when they do this they will also look into possible damage to the sincros and replace them under warranty if needed. Mazda has done the right thing by me and I will note that they have. THIS IS THE HAPPIEST DAY I'VE HAD ALL YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Congrats to you, and hats off to Mazda

 

Mazda = good, some mazda dealers = the suck.

Congrats man!

Do you have a link to posts about the clutch pedal snapping? I think my clutch may not be disengaging properly. I had one tranny go and replaced under warranty, but my new one is showing the same problems. My clutch pedal hasn't "snapped" but I still think there is an issue and any additional information will help.

 

Fantastic- shame you had to work so hard for it but Hats off to Mazda for stepping up.