Engine clanking noise.
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Hi Loki, video was published over 3 months ago, if i paste it in my browser at work, it plays, played it about 10 minutes ago.
It doesn't work on my phone, don't know why.
Is there any other way to view this video?
It doesn't work on my phone, don't know why.
Is there any other way to view this video?
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The rx8 has been through its mot today and passed emissions only failed on front pads, so i can confidently say the catalytic converter is not the problem with the it, as suggested by RAC, its not the plugs, O2 sensor, solenoids or broken seals. It has to be the SSV, cos that's the only code it throws up, sometimes it disappears.
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Still no luck on the video. Maybe you can tell us your username on Youtube or the video title so we can find it? That said it sounds like the video is only visible to you, its owner.
It's not the SSV, that makes no sense. You may also have an SSV issue, but I don't see how it could make an rpm-invariant noise. If the sound doesn't change with rpm, it's not any component that turns with the engine. If it also doesn't change with vehicle speed, it's not anything in or attached to the transmission, diff or wheels. If it stops when the car is still, it's not a suspension component.
What does that leave?
It's not the SSV, that makes no sense. You may also have an SSV issue, but I don't see how it could make an rpm-invariant noise. If the sound doesn't change with rpm, it's not any component that turns with the engine. If it also doesn't change with vehicle speed, it's not anything in or attached to the transmission, diff or wheels. If it stops when the car is still, it's not a suspension component.
What does that leave?
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Still no luck on the video. Maybe you can tell us your username on Youtube or the video title so we can find it? That said it sounds like the video is only visible to you, its owner.
It's not the SSV, that makes no sense. You may also have an SSV issue, but I don't see how it could make an rpm-invariant noise. If the sound doesn't change with rpm, it's not any component that turns with the engine. If it also doesn't change with vehicle speed, it's not anything in or attached to the transmission, diff or wheels. If it stops when the car is still, it's not a suspension component.
What does that leave?
It's not the SSV, that makes no sense. You may also have an SSV issue, but I don't see how it could make an rpm-invariant noise. If the sound doesn't change with rpm, it's not any component that turns with the engine. If it also doesn't change with vehicle speed, it's not anything in or attached to the transmission, diff or wheels. If it stops when the car is still, it's not a suspension component.
What does that leave?
It depends on how one hears the noise, the reason i say that is i hear the normal RX8 sound along side the tapping noise.
Try viewing the video using title Rx8 code P2259.
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There are a lot of videos titled that. To make a video public you need to be logged in under the channel on youtube.com> Click the little circle in the top right with your profile pic or I think is a letter of your name if you don't have a pic> you tube studio> left hand side videos> Visibility column> Make it public
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There are a lot of videos titled that. To make a video public you need to be logged in under the channel on youtube.com> Click the little circle in the top right with your profile pic or I think is a letter of your name if you don't have a pic> you tube studio> left hand side videos> Visibility column> Make it public
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It's pretty clearly timed with your engine revolutions. Are you sure the sound doesn't speed up with rpm?
What's also weird is you don't have exhaust sound (or even exhaust?) coming from the exhaust pipes. I would expect to hear the engine clearly through the tailpipes when you brought the camera near.
Is your exhaust actually connected? I feel like you would notice if it wasn't, but who knows.
Can you localize where under the hood the sound is coming from? left, right, bottom, top? It's very difficult to detect that from the recording, the video doesn't retain positional audio.
When was your last oil change and was there any metal in the oil?
What's also weird is you don't have exhaust sound (or even exhaust?) coming from the exhaust pipes. I would expect to hear the engine clearly through the tailpipes when you brought the camera near.
Is your exhaust actually connected? I feel like you would notice if it wasn't, but who knows.
Can you localize where under the hood the sound is coming from? left, right, bottom, top? It's very difficult to detect that from the recording, the video doesn't retain positional audio.
When was your last oil change and was there any metal in the oil?
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The sound does increase with rpm, but it's not really louder, on a higher rpm you can hear the engine more.
It passed emissions test on Monday, so i can confirm the exhaust is intact and fully connected, it bring out smoke at start up like any other car, but disappears after a while. I did an oil change Aug 18 with a garage near my work, this sound started Oct 18, did another oil change in April 19 myself, inspected the oil, there was no metal in it, i switched oil from 5w 30 to 10w 40, cos i hardly use it in the winter and can't see that being a problem.
The noise is definitely from the engine bay top section, if i pry the ssv, the sound changes a bit and noticed sometimes it clicks and sometimes it doesn't at start up. I have inspected the 3 solenoids on the intake, removed and bench tested, all in good condition swapped them around when i replaced them back, no change in the noise. Inspected all hoses connected to the ssv, all seem alright, my mechanic has removed and cleaned the ssv, he said the Eml gas gone off, but the sound remains. I will go see the car on Saturday and shoot another video.
I really don't know what to do, take the risk and change the ssv to the new upgraded one.
It passed emissions test on Monday, so i can confirm the exhaust is intact and fully connected, it bring out smoke at start up like any other car, but disappears after a while. I did an oil change Aug 18 with a garage near my work, this sound started Oct 18, did another oil change in April 19 myself, inspected the oil, there was no metal in it, i switched oil from 5w 30 to 10w 40, cos i hardly use it in the winter and can't see that being a problem.
The noise is definitely from the engine bay top section, if i pry the ssv, the sound changes a bit and noticed sometimes it clicks and sometimes it doesn't at start up. I have inspected the 3 solenoids on the intake, removed and bench tested, all in good condition swapped them around when i replaced them back, no change in the noise. Inspected all hoses connected to the ssv, all seem alright, my mechanic has removed and cleaned the ssv, he said the Eml gas gone off, but the sound remains. I will go see the car on Saturday and shoot another video.
I really don't know what to do, take the risk and change the ssv to the new upgraded one.
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tagging for the outcome but its probably blown up lol
btw it looks like your motor is missing two ports and your engine bay is backwards
btw it looks like your motor is missing two ports and your engine bay is backwards
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The sound does increase with rpm, but it's not really louder, on a higher rpm you can hear the engine more.
It passed emissions test on Monday, so i can confirm the exhaust is intact and fully connected, it bring out smoke at start up like any other car, but disappears after a while. I did an oil change Aug 18 with a garage near my work, this sound started Oct 18, did another oil change in April 19 myself, inspected the oil, there was no metal in it, i switched oil from 5w 30 to 10w 40, cos i hardly use it in the winter and can't see that being a problem.
The noise is definitely from the engine bay top section, if i pry the ssv, the sound changes a bit and noticed sometimes it clicks and sometimes it doesn't at start up. I have inspected the 3 solenoids on the intake, removed and bench tested, all in good condition swapped them around when i replaced them back, no change in the noise. Inspected all hoses connected to the ssv, all seem alright, my mechanic has removed and cleaned the ssv, he said the Eml gas gone off, but the sound remains. I will go see the car on Saturday and shoot another video.
I really don't know what to do, take the risk and change the ssv to the new upgraded one.
It passed emissions test on Monday, so i can confirm the exhaust is intact and fully connected, it bring out smoke at start up like any other car, but disappears after a while. I did an oil change Aug 18 with a garage near my work, this sound started Oct 18, did another oil change in April 19 myself, inspected the oil, there was no metal in it, i switched oil from 5w 30 to 10w 40, cos i hardly use it in the winter and can't see that being a problem.
The noise is definitely from the engine bay top section, if i pry the ssv, the sound changes a bit and noticed sometimes it clicks and sometimes it doesn't at start up. I have inspected the 3 solenoids on the intake, removed and bench tested, all in good condition swapped them around when i replaced them back, no change in the noise. Inspected all hoses connected to the ssv, all seem alright, my mechanic has removed and cleaned the ssv, he said the Eml gas gone off, but the sound remains. I will go see the car on Saturday and shoot another video.
I really don't know what to do, take the risk and change the ssv to the new upgraded one.
If you really have difficulty narrowing down the source of the sound, here's a trick: take a wooden stick, apply one end to your ear, and the other end to various (non-moving!) engine components. When you touch the thing that is making the sound, you'll hear it loud and clear through the stick. Once you find out what exactly is knocking, report back, we can talk about it.
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Well if cleaning the SSV didn't fix the noise, and the code has gone away, then it's probably not the SSV.
If you really have difficulty narrowing down the source of the sound, here's a trick: take a wooden stick, apply one end to your ear, and the other end to various (non-moving!) engine components. When you touch the thing that is making the sound, you'll hear it loud and clear through the stick. Once you find out what exactly is knocking, report back, we can talk about it.
If you really have difficulty narrowing down the source of the sound, here's a trick: take a wooden stick, apply one end to your ear, and the other end to various (non-moving!) engine components. When you touch the thing that is making the sound, you'll hear it loud and clear through the stick. Once you find out what exactly is knocking, report back, we can talk about it.
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lighten up francis. i was tagging this for outcome cause its something i dont know. as for my joke this is the interwebz mane. get some butthurt oinment stat
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1: check cat (actually remove it from the car and try to look through it)
2: check plugs( look for signs of excess fuel)
3: test for vac leak
4: check compression (rotary specific test)
5: for fun look up marbles in a can on this site
I'd bet money on it being your cat is clogged and the back pressure went back into the engine and knocked a seal/end out and if so...
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2: check plugs( look for signs of excess fuel)
3: test for vac leak
4: check compression (rotary specific test)
5: for fun look up marbles in a can on this site
I'd bet money on it being your cat is clogged and the back pressure went back into the engine and knocked a seal/end out and if so...
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#49
Is the noise gone? Or does it come back after the engine is warmed up? The catalytic converter issue is not external that causes the problem. The material inside can fall apart with minimal warning. I even had one that crapped out just as the emission test finished and fortunately the tester ignored it because it failed two days later.
Many will rattle around pieces inside only after warm up, then suddenly clog off the outlet, which diminishes power considerably or stalls engines. Left to cool down it can weld into place and either stay clogged, fall over and be unclogged until hot enough to dance around again.
At this point it is assumed that the rotating external parts are checked (belts, fans, pulleys, alternator internals, etc) Same with clutches. If you romp on it, even a new clutch can only take so much.
Many will rattle around pieces inside only after warm up, then suddenly clog off the outlet, which diminishes power considerably or stalls engines. Left to cool down it can weld into place and either stay clogged, fall over and be unclogged until hot enough to dance around again.
At this point it is assumed that the rotating external parts are checked (belts, fans, pulleys, alternator internals, etc) Same with clutches. If you romp on it, even a new clutch can only take so much.
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Well first you got to quit ruling stuff out before checking it, If all else fails compression check since it could be the engine it's self my car only was running on 1 rotor and started up fine hot or cold. All the stuff we have told you including the cat needs to be checked until you see it with your own eyes don't rule it out.. If your going to start ruling stuff out without looking at it you might as well cut your losses and move on to another car. Also when you get the car jacked up you can crawl around under it to find out where the sound is coming from better.