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Old 12-03-2019, 09:29 AM
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Video unavailable even in browser. Perhaps it hasn't been published?
Hi Loki, video was published over 3 months ago, if i paste it in my browser at work, it plays, played it about 10 minutes ago.

​​​It doesn't work on my phone, don't know why.
Is there any other way to view this video?


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YouTube changed all video settings to private over the weekend.
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Originally Posted by Cosmo Canuck
YouTube changed all video settings to private over the weekend.
I have just viewed this video on my work pc, how does private affect it?
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I have just viewed this video on my work pc, how does private affect it?
it’s probably in the memory cache at your work. If it’s just switched to private then you have to be signed in for it to work. Clear the computer cache and you will lose the video.
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Originally Posted by Cosmo Canuck
it’s probably in the memory cache at your work. If it’s just switched to private then you have to be signed in for it to work. Clear the computer cache and you will lose the video.
Hi, how else can i send the video, so you guys can watch it?
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Are you logged into youtube when you can see it, and not logged in when you can't? If it's all the same, check that the video is set to public.

There isn't really a better way to show the video, youtube should be straightforward.
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Originally Posted by Loki
Are you logged into youtube when you can see it, and not logged in when you can't? If it's all the same, check that the video is set to public.

There isn't really a better way to show the video, youtube should be straightforward.
Hi Loki, I'm logged into YouTube and have removed the privacy settings, please try the video again.

The rx8 has been through its mot today and passed emissions only failed on front pads, so i can confidently say the catalytic converter is not the problem with the it, as suggested by RAC, its not the plugs, O2 sensor, solenoids or broken seals. It has to be the SSV, cos that's the only code it throws up, sometimes it disappears.
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Originally Posted by thebubbadog
Check the cat under the car by taking it off, post video of it happening if you can or from your memory tell us if it changes tone/ starts making the clunking with Rpm as the car is sitting still and reving or only happens under driving conditions? enough said
Hi bubbadog, it's definitely not the cat, cos it passed emissions test yesterday, it's not plugs, cos it's not misfiring and no codes related to that, no smoking, no loss of power, no overheating, perfect idle. I just don't want to throw parts at it. Please check if you can view this video.
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Still no luck on the video. Maybe you can tell us your username on Youtube or the video title so we can find it? That said it sounds like the video is only visible to you, its owner.

It's not the SSV, that makes no sense. You may also have an SSV issue, but I don't see how it could make an rpm-invariant noise. If the sound doesn't change with rpm, it's not any component that turns with the engine. If it also doesn't change with vehicle speed, it's not anything in or attached to the transmission, diff or wheels. If it stops when the car is still, it's not a suspension component.
What does that leave?

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Originally Posted by Loki
Still no luck on the video. Maybe you can tell us your username on Youtube or the video title so we can find it? That said it sounds like the video is only visible to you, its owner.

It's not the SSV, that makes no sense. You may also have an SSV issue, but I don't see how it could make an rpm-invariant noise. If the sound doesn't change with rpm, it's not any component that turns with the engine. If it also doesn't change with vehicle speed, it's not anything in or attached to the transmission, diff or wheels. If it stops when the car is still, it's not a suspension component.
What does that leave?

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Hi Loki,

It depends on how one hears the noise, the reason i say that is i hear the normal RX8 sound along side the tapping noise.

Try viewing the video using title Rx8 code P2259.
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Originally Posted by Mrqng
Hi Loki,

It depends on how one hears the noise, the reason i say that is i hear the normal RX8 sound along side the tapping noise.

Try viewing the video using title Rx8 code P2259.
There are a lot of videos titled that. To make a video public you need to be logged in under the channel on youtube.com> Click the little circle in the top right with your profile pic or I think is a letter of your name if you don't have a pic> you tube studio> left hand side videos> Visibility column> Make it public
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Originally Posted by thebubbadog
There are a lot of videos titled that. To make a video public you need to be logged in under the channel on youtube.com> Click the little circle in the top right with your profile pic or I think is a letter of your name if you don't have a pic> you tube studio> left hand side videos> Visibility column> Make it public
Hi Loki, the video is public, and my name is on it, Reginald Igweike.
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Hi Loki, the video is public, and my name is on it, Reginald Igweike.
I'm at work so i can't watch but for the other people of the form here you go
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Thanks Loki for putting the video up on the forum, what do you think about the sound?
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It's pretty clearly timed with your engine revolutions. Are you sure the sound doesn't speed up with rpm?

What's also weird is you don't have exhaust sound (or even exhaust?) coming from the exhaust pipes. I would expect to hear the engine clearly through the tailpipes when you brought the camera near.

Is your exhaust actually connected? I feel like you would notice if it wasn't, but who knows.

Can you localize where under the hood the sound is coming from? left, right, bottom, top? It's very difficult to detect that from the recording, the video doesn't retain positional audio.
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When was your last oil change and was there any metal in the oil?
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The sound does increase with rpm, but it's not really louder, on a higher rpm you can hear the engine more.
It passed emissions test on Monday, so i can confirm the exhaust is intact and fully connected, it bring out smoke at start up like any other car, but disappears after a while. I did an oil change Aug 18 with a garage near my work, this sound started Oct 18, did another oil change in April 19 myself, inspected the oil, there was no metal in it, i switched oil from 5w 30 to 10w 40, cos i hardly use it in the winter and can't see that being a problem.

​​​The noise is definitely from the engine bay top section, if i pry the ssv, the sound changes a bit and noticed sometimes it clicks and sometimes it doesn't at start up. I have inspected the 3 solenoids on the intake, removed and bench tested, all in good condition swapped them around when i replaced them back, no change in the noise. Inspected all hoses connected to the ssv, all seem alright, my mechanic has removed and cleaned the ssv, he said the Eml gas gone off, but the sound remains. I will go see the car on Saturday and shoot another video.

I really don't know what to do, take the risk and change the ssv to the new upgraded one.
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tagging for the outcome but its probably blown up lol

btw it looks like your motor is missing two ports and your engine bay is backwards
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It’s almost like something touching the splash shield of the bellhousing but if you move the camera around you can find out where the noise is loudest.
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Originally Posted by Mrqng
The sound does increase with rpm, but it's not really louder, on a higher rpm you can hear the engine more.
It passed emissions test on Monday, so i can confirm the exhaust is intact and fully connected, it bring out smoke at start up like any other car, but disappears after a while. I did an oil change Aug 18 with a garage near my work, this sound started Oct 18, did another oil change in April 19 myself, inspected the oil, there was no metal in it, i switched oil from 5w 30 to 10w 40, cos i hardly use it in the winter and can't see that being a problem.

​​​The noise is definitely from the engine bay top section, if i pry the ssv, the sound changes a bit and noticed sometimes it clicks and sometimes it doesn't at start up. I have inspected the 3 solenoids on the intake, removed and bench tested, all in good condition swapped them around when i replaced them back, no change in the noise. Inspected all hoses connected to the ssv, all seem alright, my mechanic has removed and cleaned the ssv, he said the Eml gas gone off, but the sound remains. I will go see the car on Saturday and shoot another video.

I really don't know what to do, take the risk and change the ssv to the new upgraded one.
Well if cleaning the SSV didn't fix the noise, and the code has gone away, then it's probably not the SSV.

If you really have difficulty narrowing down the source of the sound, here's a trick: take a wooden stick, apply one end to your ear, and the other end to various (non-moving!) engine components. When you touch the thing that is making the sound, you'll hear it loud and clear through the stick. Once you find out what exactly is knocking, report back, we can talk about it.
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Originally Posted by 200.mph
tagging for the outcome but its probably blown up lol

btw it looks like your motor is missing two ports and your engine bay is backwards
Hi 200mph, this is not a laughing matter, what experience do you have on an rx8? we only want serious comments on this forum.
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Originally Posted by Loki
Well if cleaning the SSV didn't fix the noise, and the code has gone away, then it's probably not the SSV.

If you really have difficulty narrowing down the source of the sound, here's a trick: take a wooden stick, apply one end to your ear, and the other end to various (non-moving!) engine components. When you touch the thing that is making the sound, you'll hear it loud and clear through the stick. Once you find out what exactly is knocking, report back, we can talk about it.
Thanks Loki, will do so when i go to collect the car on Saturday. It is quite hard to locate where the noise is coming from as it's uniform across the engine bay from left to right. Since the ssv was cleaned a test drive has not been carried out, so I'll have to do a test drive to see if the lights come back on or not.
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Hi 200mph, this is not a laughing matter, what experience do you have on an rx8? we only want serious comments on this forum.
hmmmm well lets see ive been here since 2008 when i got my 8, have worked on about 20 for other 8club members/owners, have pulled engines, trans, swapped many exhausts, suspensions, brakes, installed gauges, nitrous, worked on both turbo and supercharged 8s etc oh yhea ive completely stripped one for a part out also but i probably dont know **** at least not whats wrong with yours

lighten up francis. i was tagging this for outcome cause its something i dont know. as for my joke this is the interwebz mane. get some butthurt oinment stat
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1: check cat (actually remove it from the car and try to look through it)
2: check plugs( look for signs of excess fuel)
3: test for vac leak
4: check compression (rotary specific test)
5: for fun look up marbles in a can on this site

I'd bet money on it being your cat is clogged and the back pressure went back into the engine and knocked a seal/end out and if so...
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Is the noise gone? Or does it come back after the engine is warmed up? The catalytic converter issue is not external that causes the problem. The material inside can fall apart with minimal warning. I even had one that crapped out just as the emission test finished and fortunately the tester ignored it because it failed two days later.
Many will rattle around pieces inside only after warm up, then suddenly clog off the outlet, which diminishes power considerably or stalls engines. Left to cool down it can weld into place and either stay clogged, fall over and be unclogged until hot enough to dance around again.

At this point it is assumed that the rotating external parts are checked (belts, fans, pulleys, alternator internals, etc) Same with clutches. If you romp on it, even a new clutch can only take so much.
Hi Cosmo, the sound hasn't gone, the sound is present from cold start and never stops until the car is switched off. The rx8 has just passed emissions test, so I'm ruling out the cat, the ssv has been removed and cleaned, the solenoids have been removed and tested to be OK, the clutch is brand new, only been used for a couple of months. I don't know what else to do.
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Well first you got to quit ruling stuff out before checking it, If all else fails compression check since it could be the engine it's self my car only was running on 1 rotor and started up fine hot or cold. All the stuff we have told you including the cat needs to be checked until you see it with your own eyes don't rule it out.. If your going to start ruling stuff out without looking at it you might as well cut your losses and move on to another car. Also when you get the car jacked up you can crawl around under it to find out where the sound is coming from better.


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