zoom44

you might get the new higher cca battery out of this. there have been otehr reports of cars sitting for 5 days or so and then not starting. most i think were low batteries. the flash you got may have been the buggy on ebut i dont think it has anything to do realy wiht your no-start.

sferrett

Yeah - sounds like your battery might just have been low... could try charging it and giving it another try

AdictiveRx

I bought my baby in April and i have NEVER had a single problem. Today of all days, i went to start he up as i do everyday and ...nothing. She wouldnt even cough. After following the flood instructions in the users manual, still nothing. Does anyone have any tricks up their sleeve i could try? I relly dont want to call "Camel Tow." :p

Please ... someone help my baby....

P.S. I am awaiting the arival of my CZ 1 computer tommorow!
Just my luck

bryrx804

Just keep doin what is say. if it doesnt start,, Depress the gas and start hold for 10 secounds if it doesnt start then release gas and start liek noraml. Keep doing that off and on liek that,. It should eventually start....

It took me 20 min to get mine started last week. Was sitin in the garage for 3 days and very cold like 10 f... I had to hook up the bat charger to it to keep the juice up to have it crank over faster..

Good luck


She'll start

Rex4Life

This should help--no doubt.

Also for the real cold guys, may want to try a dipstick block heater. What happens is the oil gets so cold the OMP has difficulty pumping the oil into the rotor chambers. This results in little or no sealing of the chambers while cranking.

Do you guys with 8's have the sub-zero starting assist system that was installed on the Rx-7's? Hopefully not--everyone I know of removed the useless system. What this system does is injects glycol (yes radiator type coolant) into the chamber to help seal up the rotors for good compression.

An alternative to this is to use 2-stroke premix oil in your gas, 6-8 oz per fillup should do it. This will insure you have good sealing for startup--even if it's cold and has extra fuel.

Here's a thread that talks about premix: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=OMP

And yea, the bigger battery would help too, higher cranking speed = more compression for starting.

HTH,

Scott

seikx8

Most of my trips are over 5 miles, except a few time just a block or two away which I used to warmed up about 15 seconds and drive. When it's too cold I tend to warm it up more and never turn off the car when it's just been started; I do have a few occation stall the engine in the early morning when it's cold where my foot still sleepy when releasing the clutch, but never had experienced any engine starting issue. I had the M flash back in March that ran flawlessly untill now and the temperature wasn't much different that never go below 50 F.

However, last week I took out the eManage and run the car stock since. Maybe that cause the engine to run too rich and carbon build up too fast? Definitely the plugs need to be replaced soon, if not sooner.

ps: If it's not because of the free service, I would of replaced the plugs already :D

RotaMotion

Yipes! That spark plug looks more like a drain plug On second thought, drain plugs are cleaner than that

RotaMotion

Hi RX8MN. I'm also an M flasher and I think I had a near-flood-experience today (maybe there is a reason for John Edwards and he could look into this) that resuled from a short lunch trip earlier in the day. When I left work it took several loooonnnggg cranks to get the thing going. There was lots of black smoke that blew away from the car when it finally started, so I don't know if there was a gas smell.

Out of curiosity, did you have lots of black smoke?

Rare photo of two flooded 8s simultaneously starting in the distance. Probably had the spark plugs replaced later in the day.

Gambit

Do you rev it before you shut it off, or just shut it off

rx8cited

LMAO! That's too funny ....... with all that smoke, they must have followed the unflood procedure where you pull the spark plugs out and put some transmission fluid in.

AdictiveRx

I tried it all.....ah well. The car is on the way to the dealer right now. The dumb @$$ tow truck driver was about to tow it with a wheel lift truck not knowing that u NEED a flat bed. I didnt know either till the manager of the towing company called to tell him to stop. Thank god or else it coulda got messy. I am waiting for the car to be ready now.... Just another member of the flood club i guess. Oh well, i still adore this car :p

Slims8

Ok, I must be stupid... Why MUST you tow it on a Flat Bed? I've had mine towed on a lift once, a flat bed twice, behind a truck twice, and pushed it once. None seemed to hurt it anymore that it alread was.

bay

i brought the car in to get the oil changed, since the oil getting gas in it is probable. while i was at the dealer they gave me a new flash for the hard start issues, told me about a new battery that mazda is providing (higher cranking power) to help with the hard cold starts. said that would be about a month off and to come back for it.

as for cutting off the fuel, i just pulled the fuel relay.

.02$

bay

dude, you tow your car alot =p.. what the heck are you doing?
.02$

Slims8

Oh, trust me, I don't do it on a Saturday afternoon when I have nothing else to do. It's just been broke down too many times. Towing it off the street, then to the dealership, then to another dealership, then driving it for a while. Then back to the dealership, then towing it home from the dealership to the Apartment Complex, then push it in the driveway. It's not over yet. :Puts Head Through Wall:

Tinkerer

There's no such thing as an RX8 that won't flood. If it hasn't happened to you yet it's just a matter of time. It's gonna get ya -- oh yes it is!!! I'm thinking I'm up around 5 or 6 times in 13K+ miles.

I can't imagine Ford will put up with the tow bills on these things too much longer before they kill this engine once again. I don't think there's a way around this. If they don't flood the engine with gas upon start-up, there's no way to seal off the rotors.

Make sure you have a GREAT battery charger on hand with an 'engine start' mode. Keep your cranks to short 10 second bursts with at least 30 second rest periods. Eventually (20 minutes seems about the normal) she'll start to kick over for you.

I love the car -- I love the rotary engine. The gas mileage wouldn't suck if I kept the RPM's down, but I'm not going to!

We've got heated seats -- I think we need heated chambers so this @#$%doesn't happen anymore! I drive 4 vehicles routinely -- only the RX8 is twisted (warm up REQUIRED) and even that doesn't ALWAYS work...

Tinkerer

driftingrx8

I never had a single problem. 14K miles on it, and every time I warm it up COMPLETELY. When I shut it off, I rev to 6000rpms, and kill it at 6000rpms, do not wait on it to go back to idle...
The car has NEVER been down, never been to the deralership since new... I guess I am lucky

sea-rx8

15000 miles...no problems

RX8driver

The dealer called today and said the car was flooded. They said they reflashed the reflashed flash again! You just have to love it. It will be interesting to see what difference there will be with the car this time when I get it back. They want to keep the car overnight and try and start it again in the morning to make sure it doesn't do the same thing again.... Seems like there should be a more definative way to determine if the flash was the problem...
I will update you when I finally get it back.

Ajax

Irish had the exact same thing happen to him. Car sat for a few days and bam, wouldn't start. They replaced the battery.

EatMyBanana

12000 miles and i treat it no diffrent than any other car i have owned and no flooding.

Yeller8

thanx to this board I was able to start it without a tow. I did the start with the gas pedal fully depressed a few times and it finally kicked. I had to charge battery with jumper cables because i really drained it. The reason I flooded is the same as we have all been warned.........started it to take out CD and shut it a minute later.

Takashi 7

Sorry to hear about the Flooding. You should have your car checked out at the shop though.
But for future reference, you can remove cd's without starting the car or even using the key. Most cars will let you eject cd's that way.


Takashi 7

BlueFrenzy

Lucky the 8 wasn't out of commission.

Takashi ... as far as I'm aware our 8's REQUIRE the key to get the CD player working ... just turn the key to the "ON" position though.

aggietiff28

Don't know about the 6 disk changers...but if you only have a single cd stereo you can just push the eject button without the key even in the ignition and the cd will pop out.