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Old 01-18-2005, 11:37 AM
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Mine flooded yesterday morning, hooray! I'm having it towed as we speak. 18k miles and 1.5 years of ownership with absolutely no problems then "WHAM!" And I even had to miss the meet yesterday in Pensacola because of it.

Meow, I was like you for a moment, wanting to be part of the super special flooded club, but now I want out.

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Old 01-18-2005, 11:48 AM
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YEAH JEN!! YOU GO GIRL!! Way to "take " one for the teamWOOT!!! did they tell you the actual cel code?
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Originally Posted by phee
I wanna be warped by Meow :D
Maybe it's time to move this back to the Lounge...

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Old 01-18-2005, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gord96BRG
Maybe it's time to move this back to the Lounge...

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Awww, geez. That'll teach me to post early in the morning. I meant to say "LIKE Meow". Mea culpa.
Old 01-18-2005, 12:10 PM
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^ freudian slip^ :D
Old 01-18-2005, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Meowloud
I got off of work Friday, started my car, drove 2 blocks and the engine light came on, car chokes and dies. Final verdict... it FINALLY FLOODED!!!!
You may ask, "OK psychotic, big teeth woman.. WHY would that make you happy?"
Well I'll tell 'ya. I've always felt left out when it comes to that Poll about people whom have flooded. It always felt like a part of my life was missing because I couldn't check one of those little boxes. WELL NOW I CAN!!!! :D


If you still feel left out you can join me in the "I just had my engine replaced" club.
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How about the 1500 degree cupholder club?
Old 01-18-2005, 01:26 PM
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How about the 1500 degree cupholder club?
That's the secret name for RX-8 Club. :D
Old 01-18-2005, 01:44 PM
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Congrats! I am still a no flood virgin! My day will come!
Old 01-18-2005, 02:13 PM
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Yikes. I was kinda' hopin' yellows were immune to the flooding thing, you know, bein' a hot color and all they should ignite better! :D

Sorry for both of you, I guess 'M' is not all it's cracked up to be.
Old 01-18-2005, 02:25 PM
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I couldn't get the M flash because it had been halted when I asked for it. They are looking into it right now but I haven't gotten a call back yet.
Old 01-18-2005, 03:02 PM
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LOL, you’re not serious right…? If so I aplogize…

But, I agree with you…no worry, stay happy and it will make the hard things in life SO MUCH better no matter what happens!

OK…so you drove it acting weird and turned it off. The “next” day you tried to turn it on and it flooded…right? That is still strange and I’m still a little confused about your flood. I never read anyone having a flood like that.

One thing I can tell you is that the manual actually states “NOT” to warm up the engine for long periods, or extended time. They say to turn it on and drive. Yes, you have to keep the revs low until it’s warmed up but you don’t have to sit in the car for a minute waiting for it to happen. Humm…???

I’m happy you are taking it so well!

Off topic note: No one told me that RX8 spark plugs cost $120…what da heck!!!!! Since when???? Why???? I know you don’t change spark plugs often but $120 for spark plugs is 4 times more than a standard engine. Say it aint so…that would be the ONE NEW thing I was never told about!!!

You know, if mine flooded after warranty and I did everything I was supposed to do to keep it from flooding…I would raise up a STINK with Mazda about it because that can’t be considered OK for an engine to leave you stranded.
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Originally Posted by phee
Awww, geez. That'll teach me to post early in the morning. I meant to say "LIKE Meow". Mea culpa.
:o Um, actually you did say "LIKE Meow"! I just edited the quote in my post to make it more interesting... :D

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Old 01-18-2005, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mpt_yellowRX8
I couldn't get the M flash because it had been halted when I asked for it. They are looking into it right now but I haven't gotten a call back yet.
the new flash is out and the halt should be lifted. make sure the service center's WDS is at level 35.2. i made a sticky thread in the "known problems" forum.
Old 01-18-2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
Off topic note: No one told me that RX8 spark plugs cost $120…what da heck!!!!! Since when???? Why????
The electrodes are made out of Iridium. None of that cheapo platinum stuff for our cars
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Originally Posted by Meowloud
I'm off my medication today.
That's the strange part... I thought my gas cap was loose or a fluid level was low because everyone that I've read about flooded theirs upon start up.. AND weren't able to drive them afterwards. This is where it surprised me when the dealership said 'flooded'. I had started, warmed for 1 min. and drove a block and the light came on. Shortly after the light came on, I had to stop at a light. Car started hesitating/shaking, more low percussion popping was very apparent, and grey-ish smoke started rolling out of the tailpipes (VERY embarrassing). I checked fluids, gas cap, etc. said "forget this", parked it and had a beer.
Got up Saturday to screw around with it. Couldn't find anything wrong and started very hard. Grey smoke, popping, and finally died. Eh, dealer time.
Monday morning, got up and had her towed. Dealership said FLOODED.
This doesn't sound like flooding to me.. at least not what caused the car to die the first time. The flooding probably came when you tried to get it restarted. Personally, I'd get your dealership to determine what caused it to die in the first place, and not accept the flooding explanation. Just my 2 cents.
Old 01-18-2005, 07:34 PM
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car wouldnt start

his morning, it was about 10 degrees and my car would not start. The engine would just turn over but the car never started no matter how long i cranked it. Does anyone know what i can do to fix this. Is something frozen? I know the flashes are suppose to give better starting but i have not had any problems with my car starting up untill today. The car has about 18700 miles on it. I did bring it to the dealer a couple of months ago to get re flashed and oil change, but they said they were having problems with the new flash program and that my car did not need it done. I charged my battery and tried starting the car again but still nothing. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Before you shut your car down, did you rev it to 4000rpm for about 5-10 seconds and then killed the engine off? It was 10 degrees here, and my car fired right up..
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i do usually give my car a quick rev before shutting down. Not for 10 seconds though. The car was sitting from saturday night until tuesday morning. I think this may have made it worse. I dont no what i can do to get this thing started. Im hoping that it will start up once the temperatures get above freezing level.
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De-choking procedure (from the manual)

1.) Hold accelerator pedal to the floor.

2.) Turn ignition key for about 6-8 seconds.

3.) Release ignition key.

4.) Release accelerator pedal.

5.) Depress clutch, and start car as normal.


I just went through the procedure for the first time this morning myself (was about 10 here, too...). Started right up!
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I agree with ^^^^.

Flooding was not the root cause, as you would not have received a CEL. Something else be happening here....
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Originally Posted by vectorwolf
De-choking procedure (from the manual)

1.) Hold accelerator pedal to the floor.

2.) Turn ignition key for about 6-8 seconds.

3.) Release ignition key.

4.) Release accelerator pedal.

5.) Depress clutch, and start car as normal.


I just went through the procedure for the first time this morning myself (was about 10 here, too...). Started right up!
I actualy tried this procedure this morning, and it still did not start.
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Call a tow truck, or you can be a real man and find the problem yourself.

Look at it like this, you need fuel, spark, air and compression for the motor to run. Lets assume you still have compression.

1. Pull off a plug wire and put it close to something metal, have someone crank the car for you, did you see a spark jump? If so, proceed to step two.

2. Pull one of your spark plugs, is it wet with gas? If so, your car could be flooded. Try this, pull all plugs, clean and dry them, put them back in, pull the EFI fuse, turn the car over for abouit ten seconds to blow out the housings, then put the fuse back in and try to start it normally. Still don't work?

3. Still doesn't work, spark plugs weren't dripping with gas, and you have a good spark? Time to check fuel pressure. You could use a gauge and tap in to the fuel rail but I'm guessing that would be to much for you. Instead you can just get your ear real close to the fuel tank and have one of your buddys turn the ignition key to the "on" position, you should hear the fuel pumps prime the lines for a few seconds then turn off. Chances are if you hear the pumps, than fuel pressure isn't your problem.

If you find the problem, get on here and we can try and walk you through it. If your still lost than I think it's time to call the dealer.
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BTW, I would bet your car is badly flooded. Assuming your car is not out of gas, I would start with step two and pull/clean the plugs. Thats your best bet. If that don't work, you can always call the dealer and have it towed.
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Mine would not start either and it was 13 out. It was my fault as Sunday I started it to move it up 10 ft in the driveway. I reved it to 4000 and turned off the ignition. The car was cold and not warmed up. Today I went out to start it and it just cranked. I put the pedal to the floor and cranked it about 10 seconds and nothing. I then released the pedal and it fired once or twice and quit. I went thru this procedure until the battery almost died. I then sat there for a few minutes and tried again. The pedal to the floor and cranked it. One rotor started firing and I had to feather the gas to keep it running. Finally the other rotor kicked in and it ran like crap for the 1st couple miles and then returned to normal. I guess one is not a true 8 driver till you have flooded the engine.


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