PheneousPhreak

1st time this has happened to me and I'm very frustrated. Can't get my baby to start. =0( But the help in the forums have been great. They are super detailed and right on. I'm just not having any luck.

wankelhead

This happened to me for the first time yesterday. Mazda de-flooding prcedures via the manual did not work. However, I called the dealership and Mazda came though big time. They told me to call Mazda roadside assitance and have the car towed to the dealership to be looked at and repaired if necessary. The dealership resolved the flooding problem and upgraded my spark plugs based on a TSB I didn't know about. All free of charge under the extended engine warranty. They told me to call whenever it happens again and they will go through the same process. I was very surprised, and extrememly impressed. The car was hauled in at 9 am and I was back on the road by 1 pm. Great way to get yourt plugs replaced for free

Zoom on

ferg

do you have any mods under the hood?

rx8cited

5yr /60k or 8yr/100k?

wankelhead

No mods. 8yr/100k.

whosyourbaba

I need some help guys. I have a 2004 RX-8 with 25k miles that flooded for the first time. THe dealer wants 1200 to fix it to replace coils, spark plugs, and to deflood it. I found the TSB 01-015/08 however they stated I had a previously a older version of it done and that I could not use the TSB to cover my flood. Do you guys know if you can use this TSB (01-015/08) to cover it again? I had the older one done in 06.

wankelhead

As I mentioned above, this was covered 100% by the dealership when it happened to me under the 8 year/100K extended engine warranty. I think it's f'ing rediculous that there isn't consistency across dealerships for this. If I were you I would'nt even bother with the dealership and just call Mazda roadside assist. They will tell you the flood is covered and should tow your car to the nearest dealership for repair. Also, if you want to call the dealership I dealt with to get the information you need on how this is covered, feel free:

Doug's Lynwood Mazda
http://www.seattlemazda.com/


Best of luck

Paul Woodsford

As long as there is nothing wrong with coil packs or plugs then just tow start , 15 mph and 2nd gear. When it starts then run until warm. Works for me everytime, 3 to date, as carried out by the AA in UK. Also it is free.

whosyourbaba

thanks for the info. this is my first time ever flooding and I had my car since 03. They do have to replace my plugs and coils. I got it down to 950 total since I bought the parts on my own to have them replace. A major bummer, I even talked to the district manager and corporate, no help. Gonna try a letter

rhjames

How do you know that the plugs and coil need replacing? I've flooded 3 times, and they got it going. I'm just wondering if you're taking their word for it. I guess it's a bit hard if the car is already at the repairers. Too bad you didn't try the clutch start.

malofquist

sadly i wasn't there to see it, but my g/f said the Rx-8 wouldn't even crank. turning the key did nothing. since we don't own remote, i was thinking it was possibly security system related!! ended up towing it to dealership and they said it was 'flooded'. i picture floodig causing it not to start after it was turning over for a while, not what she was experiencing.

can the engine know it's flooded and not turn over?

rhjames

Not if it's the same car I have. I've flooded three times, and eventually got it started by pulling the petrol pump fuse and cranking for about half an hour. I know of no way that flooding would disable the cranking.

thegoose

I flooded mine once, had to let it sit for a day.. no problems after that, just didnt turn it off right away

realBlackSunshine

iTrader: (1)

I never had a problem with my '06 until i wrecked it turning it up on the passenger side for several minutes...............it is currently in the body shop and they called askin why it won't start........... The replaced a main fuse, and are still haveing issues any ideas what else to do please let me know.

rhjames

We need more information. Does the motor turn over when cranked? If so, it's possible flooding. Clutch start is probably best. Otherwise, pull out the fuel pump fuse, connect a big battery and do lots of cranking. Crank on and off for about 10 seconds at a time, have a short break, then do it again. After about 4 or 5 of these, try it with the fuse in. It might take an hour. If smoke starts coming off the starter, give it a cooling break for a few minutes.

Winning 8

deflood procedure:
first, take out spark plug and blow air until all gas is gone.
second, take out fuel pump fuse and crank engine for 5-8 seconds with 10 seconds interval. make sure you are hook up with a charger.
when you can't smell anymore gas coming from engine or from the spark plug hole then you could install the spark plugs and fuel pump fuse.

Delmeister

I had the same thing happen to me while the car was at the body shop. I went there and did the Mazda recommended procedure, which is put the throttle to the floor and crank it. Let the throttle out after a while during cranking. It started for me that time, but would not work a previous time when I had to have the car towed to the dealer. That time I even took the plugs out and dried them. No go.

You don't have to remove any fuses to prevent gas flow. It is cut off if you floor the throttle.

rhjames

I can't even find the spark plugs in mine!!!

Jon316G

iTrader: (1)

Take off the front driver's side tire and look through the mud guards.
Can't miss them
Read through this DIY on how to remove the plugs. It also has pics!
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-spark-plug-change-145045/

Huey52

iTrader: (2)

Yep, pull the driver's-front wheel and detach the mud flap and you can't miss them (all four straight in). btw: a socket extension with a 'wobble' joint really helps.

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...9&d=1087771593

rhjames

Does this apply to right had or left hand drive or both?

J-Rex

Ok so after replacing the ignition system, my engine is flooded.... I'm in the process of cranking it with the spark plugs out, but I did not disconnect the Eccentric Shaft Position Sensor, does anyone know if that is going to cause any damage?

Huey52

iTrader: (2)

LOL They don't reverse the engine orientation when they go from left to right hand drive, or vice versa, but I see where you're coming from. How about left-front (or port-forward) wheel removal.

bobafpe

I had never flooded my MT 05 in 4 years but did this week by moving it and shutting it down quickly to put another car in garage. Called dealer who said the tow and repairs were my responsibility with 65k miles and would be at least $350. I did the de-flooding procedure in the manual but all it did was weaken my battery and it never sounded like it was close to starting. So, I hit the forum and read about pumping windshield washing fluid into the engine and then followed the starting procedure and it started up on the 4th try. The forum is awesome. Thanks so much.

ExBMWdrivr

could somebody post a link to the thread which contains this DIY of winshield washer injection for curing a flooded rotary? ive searched, but i cant seem to find it. anybody that could point me in that direction would be a HUGE help.... ive got a week to get this fixed and im trying to keep it away from the dealership, im making a deals gap run in 12 days and i HAVE to have my car ready, lol. as for the flooding... it sucks... bad. i pulled the plugs, cleaned them up, did the de-flood procedure, with no progress. it sounded like it wasnt to start a few times, but its like its just not sparking at all..... if i have to use the dealer, i will, but i want to try to fix this myself. this being the first rotary ive ever owned, im iterested to learn more about it and repairing things like this will give me somewhat of a better understanding on how to deal with future problems...