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Old 07-06-2009, 12:42 PM
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The saga continues, now they want my oil change receipts.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
The saga continues, now they want my oil change receipts.
They did for me too. I told them that they, the dealership, performed the scheduled oil changes. It ended that real quick. Now I keep a record of when it was done on mazdausa.com.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
The saga continues, now they want my oil change receipts.
I have a feeling that Mazda is watching these kind of forums closely to see who is who ... and might or might not ask for certain information when needed.

like me, call me a whining little bitch all you want, but I probably love my car more than my gf (rofl) and everybody knows it my car's warranty repair history is longer than Mazda(or dealership) would like to see. Its not hard to find out which car is mine.

or, it depends on dealership. who knows
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i had the same issue, i have friends at a oil shop and had them write up a fake history of my cars maintenance. since i do all my oil changes at home.
some may say this is crocked but i know i maintained my car above and beyond the requirements, and my engine failed and then mazda asks me to prove that i put oil in it completely pissed me off.

if you cant find anyone in the auto industry to write you some maintenance documents.
i suggest you go buy some 5w20 from your local shop and scan the receipt and modify the date and start printing them with varying dates. its fairly easy to do and they shouldn't ask for the original receipts.
Old 07-06-2009, 03:21 PM
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damn dude.... i was just about to ask how you were able to slip the midpipe past them.... I know jigga couldnt even get his engine looked at with it on.
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my motor just died a couple hours ago...

04'
54k miles
dealer did all the oil changes for just this kind of scenario...

We'll see how long it takes them to fix it.

How do this apply to the 100k mile warranty?
Do they just go by the chassis miles, or is it 100k per engine replaced?
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Its the first 100K miles.

not 100K per engine

but I think all Mazda parts when installed by dealership gets 12 K miles/1 yr, so if your engine dies at exactly 100K miles, and they replace it, you will get another 12K miles/1 yr on it.
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Originally Posted by Grungepup
damn dude.... i was just about to ask how you were able to slip the midpipe past them.... I know jigga couldnt even get his engine looked at with it on.

Yeah they haven't mentioned the mid pipe, just the rear 02 code but I talked to the tech and asked him what the code for low 02 would have to do with it and he said nothing, so I gave him my oil receipts and he said that would suffice. So now the ball is in their court, I just left the service dude a message. I just hope they own up to it. Besides I also have an extended warranty til' 100k so that should help as well.

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i am dreading taking mine in.... but i want the oil changed and tires rotated by saturday
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they sure are in a hurry to take your ******* money
when you buy the car but man when you have to have it fixed it a whole other story.
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oh yeah...NP is notorious for that. I dropped the car off once on a Friday, they didnt bother to look at it till the following tuesday... how FU'd is that
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My past experiences have been good but damn right away he called me to tell me my coils were shot. I said, "is that your answer to every rx8 problem?" I told him I would like to talk to the tech about how he tested them and he changed the subject real quick and said he still thinks the engine needs to be replaced and that he is awaiting approval. So I told him to not worry about the coils, that I would do them myself after the engine was replaced. I'm an honest guy and I expect people to be the same way for the most part, I just feel bad for the normal RX8 owner who doesn't know ****.
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coil has nothing to do with engine compression or engine vacuum numbers.

so yeah ... he is shitting you.

What im thinking now is they wanna try to get you some coils under warranty (cuz at this stage, no one will pay for it.), so they can charge Mazda a bit more labor hours BEFORE they replace your engine. every dollar counts
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hrm I do all my changes at home would updating your maintenance history on Mazda's website.. under the "my mazda" section be valid proof of maintenance?
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Originally Posted by nycgps
coil has nothing to do with engine compression or engine vacuum numbers.

so yeah ... he is shitting you.

What im thinking now is they wanna try to get you some coils under warranty (cuz at this stage, no one will pay for it.), so they can charge Mazda a bit more labor hours BEFORE they replace your engine. every dollar counts
I think your right because he said tonight my extended warranty was covering the coils so I told them to knock themselves out. They are gonna let me know in the morning if the engine replacement was approved.
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OOOO man I am sorry to hear of this..... I to just went thou my third engine on less mileage then you also..... Part of it I chalk up to the Super high heat here lately the other is bad work. My coolant currently looks like CRAP! If I knew the shop that did the work would provide with a Loaner I would take it into them tomorrow as I dont even have 1k on it yet. I really dont think IPAQ changed any fluids other then the OIL with the new install.
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BTW: Loaner cars are only provided under the basic warranty. Mazda doesn't provide them for the extended drivetrain or engine core warranties.
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
BTW: Loaner cars are only provided under the basic warranty. Mazda doesn't provide them for the extended drivetrain or engine core warranties.

****, really? I wonder if my extended warranty will just cover the rental.
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i know here in canada MAP does cover a rental
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is there any other kind of info you can give on your motor maintenice?

are those the original coils?
do you have latest stock tune?
did you top your oil off often?
how did your coolent look? when was the last time you did a coolant flush

your driving habits you said red lined once a day, what would you say is your commen shift rpm? 4k,5k,6k 9k everyshift?
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Okay guys so they are going to cover the engine, install my new clutch, and cover 10 days of rental.

FazdaRX_8,

I am on my third set of coils, yes I have the latest tune ( I have had a couple actually), I check my oil at every fill up and usually in between if I have some hard runs in. My last 100+ hill country run I burned a quart of oil easy.

When I say redline every day I mean when I enter the highway in the morning I usually redline (almost anyway) every gear and enter the highway at 70MPH to merge and usually if I'm on an access road I will rip through the gears just because I love the sound.

My 8 has been maintained by the book which is why I think most of the engine failure speculation is BS. With this motor I will definitely try an oil heavier than 10W30 and I will premix from day one. When this third engine fails I will tear it down myself and put all this BS to rest.

I should also note that I have had all the recalls done and a bunch of other crap replaced. Not to mention my alternator issues that they refused to cover under warranty.

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I attribute my engines longevity (75k miles) to several factors:

-Luck
-Proper oil change intervals / oil top offs
-Always allowing the engine to warm up before surpassing 4k rpm
-Climate of Colorado Springs (no extreme temps, dry)
-Air quality of colorado (very high air quality compared to a lot of the country)
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Yeah I personally just think the extreme temps are too much for the oil. The question is 10W50 or 20W40?

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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Yeah I personally just think the extreme temps are too much for the oil. The question is 10W50 or 20W40?
I would say use 20w50

You can buy them everywhere, Dino or Synthetic.

Im dare to say Mazda did NOT do enough test on 5w20 before "recommending" it.

5w20 is already weak. Plus after all the fuel and stuff that gets into the oil ... I would say after 1000 miles. it will turn into some w10 oil or some ****.

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I will have to price it, I wish there was some hard real world data on this stuff.


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