Excessive Oil Consumption
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Background info:
-68k miles
-2006 RX8 Sport M/T
-Engine replacement mid 2009 @ 42k miles
-I have noticed no visible leaking, and I don't leave any oil marks on my driveway or garage.
I am consuming roughly 2qts of oil between fill-ups (usually ~200 miles). Previously was about 1-2qts of oil every oil change (3000 miles). I am concerned about the massive amounts of oil being consumed by my car... obviously, my apex seals should last longer, but oil isn't that cheap! Has anyone else had this happen to them, and if so, what ended up being the fix?
-68k miles
-2006 RX8 Sport M/T
-Engine replacement mid 2009 @ 42k miles
-I have noticed no visible leaking, and I don't leave any oil marks on my driveway or garage.
I am consuming roughly 2qts of oil between fill-ups (usually ~200 miles). Previously was about 1-2qts of oil every oil change (3000 miles). I am concerned about the massive amounts of oil being consumed by my car... obviously, my apex seals should last longer, but oil isn't that cheap! Has anyone else had this happen to them, and if so, what ended up being the fix?
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I HATE SPEEDBUMPS!
That's normal oil consuming rotary engine. I checked mine every month and top it off as needed. You don't really have to worry about it and i know oil is expensive. Just make sure you check the oil level every month or so.
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I check the oil every fill up, and every time, its 1.5-2 quarts low... but there are no noticeable leaks, or evidence of leaks (drive-way/garage stains). I know the Wankel consumes oil, but this is more than it has ever consumed before. I bought a case of oil 2 weeks ago, and now its down to half a case already. Has anyone had this happen to them under normal driving conditions (I.E. not tracking the car)?
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Are you reading your dipstick right? Just making sure ![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Check your OMP. At times it may be stuck open without throwing CELs.
We should all sign a petition to prevent monchie from posting, he's not only useless but he also fills this board with false and misleading advice for the less experts.
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Check your OMP. At times it may be stuck open without throwing CELs.
We should all sign a petition to prevent monchie from posting, he's not only useless but he also fills this board with false and misleading advice for the less experts.
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I can say I am hoping for the seals cause I am out of the manufacturer warranty for most of the car (bought the car from carmax, and an extended warranty from carmax, but I don't trust carmax with the car, good news is i can take it where ever I want, but I end up having to pay a co-pay)...
I'll double check the start up thing when my wife gets home... maybe that will shed some light on this
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Are you reading your dipstick right? Just making sure ![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Check your OMP. At times it may be stuck open without throwing CELs.
We should all sign a petition to prevent monchie from posting, he's not only useless but he also fills this board with false and misleading advice for the less experts.
![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Check your OMP. At times it may be stuck open without throwing CELs.
We should all sign a petition to prevent monchie from posting, he's not only useless but he also fills this board with false and misleading advice for the less experts.
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You should remove it and check the shaft\stepper motor condition.
However if it's blowing smoke at start up i think that you'd contact mazmart for a lil more than just coils and plugs![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Oil ring failures suck, you might have to take a well working engine apart and rebuild it completely just for a stupid ring. Mazmart's core exchange program is solid and would be the best choice i'm afraid.
However if it's blowing smoke at start up i think that you'd contact mazmart for a lil more than just coils and plugs
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Oil ring failures suck, you might have to take a well working engine apart and rebuild it completely just for a stupid ring. Mazmart's core exchange program is solid and would be the best choice i'm afraid.
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You should remove it and check the shaft\stepper motor condition.
However if it's blowing smoke at start up i think that you'd contact mazmart for a lil more than just coils and plugs![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Oil ring failures suck, you might have to take a well working engine apart and rebuild it completely just for a stupid ring. Mazmart's core exchange program is solid and would be the best choice i'm afraid.
However if it's blowing smoke at start up i think that you'd contact mazmart for a lil more than just coils and plugs
![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Oil ring failures suck, you might have to take a well working engine apart and rebuild it completely just for a stupid ring. Mazmart's core exchange program is solid and would be the best choice i'm afraid.
I know she is missing at high RPM, and mid-range is feeling meh, but not like before when I ended up needing a new engine. Bad thing is, this is my only car...
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Downtime for an engine swap is not more than 8hrs if you already have the engine ready... You can do it in 5-6 if you're in a rush but that's definitely not a good practice on a customers' car ![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
The 8yrs\100.000miles doesn't apply to new engines as well, i'm not sure about your warranty laws but a check would make up for many mistake![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Also check your catalyzer, high oil percentages quickly kill it.
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The 8yrs\100.000miles doesn't apply to new engines as well, i'm not sure about your warranty laws but a check would make up for many mistake
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Also check your catalyzer, high oil percentages quickly kill it.
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Are you reading your dipstick right? Just making sure ![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Check your OMP. At times it may be stuck open without throwing CELs.
We should all sign a petition to prevent monchie from posting, he's not only useless but he also fills this board with false and misleading advice for the less experts.
![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Check your OMP. At times it may be stuck open without throwing CELs.
We should all sign a petition to prevent monchie from posting, he's not only useless but he also fills this board with false and misleading advice for the less experts.
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Downtime for an engine swap is not more than 8hrs if you already have the engine ready... You can do it in 5-6 if you're in a rush but that's definitely not a good practice on a customers' car ![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
The 8yrs\100.000miles doesn't apply to new engines as well, i'm not sure about your warranty laws but a check would make up for many mistake![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Also check your catalyzer, high oil percentages quickly kill it.
![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
The 8yrs\100.000miles doesn't apply to new engines as well, i'm not sure about your warranty laws but a check would make up for many mistake
![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Also check your catalyzer, high oil percentages quickly kill it.
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I HATE SPEEDBUMPS!
Are you reading your dipstick right? Just making sure ![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Check your OMP. At times it may be stuck open without throwing CELs.
We should all sign a petition to prevent monchie from posting, he's not only useless but he also fills this board with false and misleading advice for the less experts.
![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Check your OMP. At times it may be stuck open without throwing CELs.
We should all sign a petition to prevent monchie from posting, he's not only useless but he also fills this board with false and misleading advice for the less experts.
At first, i didn't say it's losing 2 quarts every month. All i said is check your oil level once a month like i usually do. These engines really eats up oil but not 2 quarts a month. Don't tell me what to say and do.
And by the way, sign the petition. And i know exactly who will do it.
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Are you reading your dipstick right? Just making sure ![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Check your OMP. At times it may be stuck open without throwing CELs.
We should all sign a petition to prevent monchie from posting, he's not only useless but he also fills this board with false and misleading advice for the less experts.
![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Check your OMP. At times it may be stuck open without throwing CELs.
We should all sign a petition to prevent monchie from posting, he's not only useless but he also fills this board with false and misleading advice for the less experts.
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At first, i didn't say it's losing 2 quarts every month. All i said is check your oil level once a month like i usually do. These engines really eats up oil but not 2 quarts a month. Don't tell me what to say and do.
And by the way, sign the petition. And i know exactly who will do it.![Yesnod](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/yesnod.gif)
And by the way, sign the petition. And i know exactly who will do it.
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Hey buddy,
I see you are local
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Feel free to PM me and we can talk. Also check out the gulf forum and look for the SARX lounge thread.
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NO.16 HIGH OIL CONSUMPTION/LEAKAGE
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BHE010300103W18
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HIGH OIL CONSUMPTION/LEAKAGE
DESCRIPTION
The oil consumption is excessive.
POSSIBLE CAUSE
• Air cleaner element malfunction (damaged, poor installation)
• Improper dipstick
• Improper engine oil viscosity
• Engine internal parts malfunction
• Metering oil pump malfunction
• Improper operation of metering oil pump control system
• Oil leakage from lubrication system parts and them joints (oil pump, oil filter, oil cooler, housing oil nozzle, manifold oil nozzle etc.)
Diagnostic procedure
STEP
INSPECTION
RESULTS
ACTION
1 Inspect for the following:
• External leakage (lubrication system parts and their joints.)
• Proper dipstick
• Proper engine oil viscosity
• Damaged and/or poor installation air cleaner element
Are all the items normal? Yes Go to the next step.
No Service if necessary.
Repeat Step 1.
2 Perform the metering oil pump control inspection.
(See Metering Oil Pump Control Inspection.)
Does the metering oil pump control properly? Yes Overhaul the engine and repair or replace the malfunctioning parts.
(See Engine Workshop Manual.)
No Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the metering oil pump control inspection results.
3 Verify test results.
• If normal, return to the diagnostic index to service any additional symptoms.
• If the malfunction remains, inspect the related Service Information and perform the repair or diagnosis.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BHE010300103W18
16
HIGH OIL CONSUMPTION/LEAKAGE
DESCRIPTION
The oil consumption is excessive.
POSSIBLE CAUSE
• Air cleaner element malfunction (damaged, poor installation)
• Improper dipstick
• Improper engine oil viscosity
• Engine internal parts malfunction
• Metering oil pump malfunction
• Improper operation of metering oil pump control system
• Oil leakage from lubrication system parts and them joints (oil pump, oil filter, oil cooler, housing oil nozzle, manifold oil nozzle etc.)
Diagnostic procedure
STEP
INSPECTION
RESULTS
ACTION
1 Inspect for the following:
• External leakage (lubrication system parts and their joints.)
• Proper dipstick
• Proper engine oil viscosity
• Damaged and/or poor installation air cleaner element
Are all the items normal? Yes Go to the next step.
No Service if necessary.
Repeat Step 1.
2 Perform the metering oil pump control inspection.
(See Metering Oil Pump Control Inspection.)
Does the metering oil pump control properly? Yes Overhaul the engine and repair or replace the malfunctioning parts.
(See Engine Workshop Manual.)
No Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the metering oil pump control inspection results.
3 Verify test results.
• If normal, return to the diagnostic index to service any additional symptoms.
• If the malfunction remains, inspect the related Service Information and perform the repair or diagnosis.
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NO.16 HIGH OIL CONSUMPTION/LEAKAGE
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BHE010300103W18
16
HIGH OIL CONSUMPTION/LEAKAGE
DESCRIPTION
The oil consumption is excessive.
POSSIBLE CAUSE
• Air cleaner element malfunction (damaged, poor installation)
• Improper dipstick
• Improper engine oil viscosity
• Engine internal parts malfunction
• Metering oil pump malfunction
• Improper operation of metering oil pump control system
• Oil leakage from lubrication system parts and them joints (oil pump, oil filter, oil cooler, housing oil nozzle, manifold oil nozzle etc.)
Diagnostic procedure
STEP
INSPECTION
RESULTS
ACTION
1 Inspect for the following:
• External leakage (lubrication system parts and their joints.)
• Proper dipstick
• Proper engine oil viscosity
• Damaged and/or poor installation air cleaner element
Are all the items normal? Yes Go to the next step.
No Service if necessary.
Repeat Step 1.
2 Perform the metering oil pump control inspection.
(See Metering Oil Pump Control Inspection.)
Does the metering oil pump control properly? Yes Overhaul the engine and repair or replace the malfunctioning parts.
(See Engine Workshop Manual.)
No Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the metering oil pump control inspection results.
3 Verify test results.
• If normal, return to the diagnostic index to service any additional symptoms.
• If the malfunction remains, inspect the related Service Information and perform the repair or diagnosis.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BHE010300103W18
16
HIGH OIL CONSUMPTION/LEAKAGE
DESCRIPTION
The oil consumption is excessive.
POSSIBLE CAUSE
• Air cleaner element malfunction (damaged, poor installation)
• Improper dipstick
• Improper engine oil viscosity
• Engine internal parts malfunction
• Metering oil pump malfunction
• Improper operation of metering oil pump control system
• Oil leakage from lubrication system parts and them joints (oil pump, oil filter, oil cooler, housing oil nozzle, manifold oil nozzle etc.)
Diagnostic procedure
STEP
INSPECTION
RESULTS
ACTION
1 Inspect for the following:
• External leakage (lubrication system parts and their joints.)
• Proper dipstick
• Proper engine oil viscosity
• Damaged and/or poor installation air cleaner element
Are all the items normal? Yes Go to the next step.
No Service if necessary.
Repeat Step 1.
2 Perform the metering oil pump control inspection.
(See Metering Oil Pump Control Inspection.)
Does the metering oil pump control properly? Yes Overhaul the engine and repair or replace the malfunctioning parts.
(See Engine Workshop Manual.)
No Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the metering oil pump control inspection results.
3 Verify test results.
• If normal, return to the diagnostic index to service any additional symptoms.
• If the malfunction remains, inspect the related Service Information and perform the repair or diagnosis.
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Hey buddy,
I see you are local
Your consumption is excessive and could be a few things. If you want to stop by the house sometime we can check out oil metering pump to see if adjusting it helps and scan for any codes, etc. It could be something simple or it could mean it's time for a rebuild.
Feel free to PM me and we can talk. Also check out the gulf forum and look for the SARX lounge thread.
I see you are local
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Feel free to PM me and we can talk. Also check out the gulf forum and look for the SARX lounge thread.
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