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Old 09-12-2009 | 10:28 AM
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Yea Jeff I realize it takes time for the ECU to relearn... but its been like 20 drive cycles. Anyway... wonder how I will persuade the dealer my OMP is dead? Cant tell them I have the Cobb?
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don't tell them you have the Cobb, they'll tell you that YOU messed it up with your AccessPORT.
Old 09-12-2009 | 12:20 PM
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Oh well, This is the first and only problem I have had with the car. Hopefully they will change it without too much argueing.
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Yea Jeff I realize it takes time for the ECU to relearn... but its been like 20 drive cycles.
How could it be 20 drive cycles? I just posted those files 4 days ago!
The absolute MAXIMUM number of complete drive cycles you could have completed by TODAY is three!

As far as replacing the OMP goes, unless it is physically broken (ie - pieces hanging off of it) you wont persuade them to replace it.
Even though there is a test for its function in the FSM, the monkeys at the dealership will have NEVER tried that test before and wont know how to do it.

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Old 09-12-2009 | 01:56 PM
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alright, since I know what the next question is going to be...
"what constitutes a complete drive cycle?"
Old 09-12-2009 | 02:02 PM
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What Jedi said ^

I do LOTS of short trips around town everyday.... So, I will make a guess... Complete drive cycle must equal complete warm up to complete cool down?
Old 09-12-2009 | 02:16 PM
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As far as replacing the OMP goes, unless it is physically broken (ie - pieces hanging off of it) you wont persuade them to replace it.
Even though there is a test for its function in the FSM, the monkeys at the dealership will have NEVER tried that test before and wont know how to do it.
So do you think I have any course of action with the stealership? Or do I just continue to pre-mix and hope it is enough to keep the engine alive?
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how much is an OMP?
Old 09-12-2009 | 02:22 PM
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how much is an OMP?
Almost as much as a motor. Last time I looked, it was $1100.
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wow, didn't realize it would be that much.
Old 09-12-2009 | 02:28 PM
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Just found a price at Mazdatrix.com $1061.00 :-(

Is there anything I can do Jeff? Or do I just live with it...
Old 09-12-2009 | 02:42 PM
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I just found the test in the FSM.... Looks like I could test it myself... I wonder if I do the test and give them the results if That would convince them to take a look.... hmmm...
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You effectively DID the test.
Crank the OMP, look for smoke.
No smoke = bad OMP.
If you tell them YOU did the test they'll tell you "you are now out of warranty" and you will have to fight them.
Old 09-12-2009 | 08:55 PM
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Guess I will just tell them I think its not working because it isnt using any oil and hope for the best.
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damn it, now I want to try out Jeff's MAX OIL map but at the same time I don't.
Ignorance is such bliss.
Old 09-12-2009 | 10:35 PM
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Do you think its safe to tell them i pre-mix? or no? Just thinking they may wonder why the car is still running after a month or so...
Old 09-13-2009 | 05:12 PM
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05shinka, Having read your thread I would not worry about what to say to the Dealer..

Just take the car there and say you have been monitoring your Oil use, via the dipstick over the past 4 weeks and you are not using any engine oil at all, then just suggest "could it be the MOP?".

As far as your AP goes, I think I would remove it...if you can?, because you are giving the Dealer and Mazda an Out...I guess you still have a B2B Warranty?

Good Luck
Old 09-13-2009 | 05:32 PM
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Yes.. I just hit 40K miles... And I will definately uninstall the AP before I take it in.
Old 09-14-2009 | 06:30 PM
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Funny... I called Mazda today and gave them my story... They basicly said "Bring it in, and leave it... we dont know how long it will take."

Sucky... you would think they would have some kind of Idea on how long it takes to change the OMP.
Old 09-14-2009 | 10:46 PM
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/\, In all fairness to the Dealer at this stage, if they are doing it by warranty they want to make sure it is the MOP first off, which it more than likely is.

How long would it take?, Well MOP's are not something they would replace very often, I have not heard of many being done.

If they looked it up they would know what the "allowable" times are from their Mazda Warranty Operational Codes which gives them a set R&R (remove and replace) claim time.

I am really not sure on that one (I don't have time schedules) but I hope they don't have to remove too much of other parts to get to it, would be bad if they had to remove engine, but, I doubt that, PM Charles, he would know for sure.

I would think it would take no longer than a day, two at the latest..including testing.

Hang on, they would more than likely have to order in the MOP, so they might give you the car back again, I am not sure how long it takes to source Mazda Parts from Distribution.

You had better take a few "patient pills"..
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at least they're willing to look at it.
It's a start
Lets hope for the best
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